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Electro Swing Thread. 08/17/2019 (Sat) 21:09:20 No.37 [Reply]
Post your favorite songs from various electro swing artist like caravan palace, jamie berry, lyre la temps, and so on.
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>>77
>but not for the intentions of the product
Isn't the music intended to be music?
>>78
The music is intended to conjure an aesthetic. An aesthetic can be enjoyed actively by playing into the themes of the music or ironically by playing the music and trying to figure out what choices were made because an artist had a vision that wanted to be released and which were made to pander to the sort of people who'd enjoy this material unironically. For instance, why is every electro swing song have a massive booming 4/4 bass drum that drowns out everything else until it disapears for a quiet moment? Is this because an artist felt that a club atmosphere would be the right place to mask and distort clever musical passages and improvisations, or because 4/4 is easier to dance aimlessly to?
>>78
That's very reductionist anon
>>134
So you're dissecting and examining why you don't like the songs and who it appeals to and why, then? "Ironically" is a pretty bad descriptor for that kind of activity then, because it's the inverse of how it's usually used, which I believe is intentionally doing something you don't believe is a good use of your time or doing it poorly for attention.
>>170
I'm just trying to puzzle this out.
>>173
I'm gonna put an example I guess: Limp Bizkit's Nookie.
If you heard this unironically it would be about fucking up and how you're only human. Listening it ironically you get humouristic aspects, from the fact that it's about Fred Durst getting cucked and the whole town laughing at him, the term "Nookie" and rhyming it with "Cookie", then saying to stick it up your YEAH, instead of ass. And then the very shallow emotions that are being said on the "I'm only human" part. It all makes for some funny entertainment.
Listening Nookie unironically would mean that you feel mad and with anger from social norms, listening to it ironically makes you laugh at the way this message is presented. Not that one way is the valid manner of listening it, but a song can have more value than it originally wanted to give.

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Post amazingly top-tier to God-tier Kanye songs Gastarbeiter 10/15/2019 (Tue) 21:55:04 No.167 [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nawiZsuFI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVl__NgDAdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EgP-GUDd1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAJKNyOLj8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUfuDKKGQxU

Since he's /mu/core so of course I can bring him here too. He's always been a part of /mu/ and will be remembered for it. Stop pretending like he's not a part of our /mu/ culture.

/metal/ thread Anonymous 08/17/2019 (Sat) 14:46:44 No.12 [Reply]
Post anything meal related
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Does this count?
Is there any metal that sounds like the background music in this video?
https://invidio.us/watch?v=rhoiGZ2Kg9I

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Gastarbeiter 09/22/2019 (Sun) 02:53:31 No.129 [Reply]
Not gonna lie, I forgot.
Also
>september
pleb-tier
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Synthesis and Music Hardware/Software Anonymous 09/01/2019 (Sun) 01:40:17 No.89 [Reply]
hey /tech/. Do you like playing with synthesis, or making music? What devices do you have? Do you have any songs or sounds to share? Share them here!

I used to be an avid consumer of the demo scene, so I love c64 and Amiga tunes, and I also have quite a few synths laying around that I like to make sounds with. I currently have:

Waldorf Blofeld
Roland Sh-201
Yamaha Tx18z
Casio Privia
tons of controllers and other bullshit

I really want to get a Roland D-50 to see what kind of sounds I can make with those kinds of old synths.
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>Yamaha TX802
Rack version of the DX7II. I don't use it all that often anymore and might sell it when it's worth more. It's a great synthesizer, but it's a bit too glossy for what I usually need. Even then, there's Dexed for this sort of thing if your love for convenience outweighs your hardware fetishism.
>Yamaha FB-01
I love this one. It's a cheap four-operator FM synthesizer in a half-rack unit. The chip is based on hardware that was used in arcade machines, and it definitely has that gritty sound to it. They distort a lot, though.
>Casio FZ-10M
A nice 16-bit sampler from the late '80s. I think it might have been among the first, at least among the first that didn't cost an arm and a leg. The prices have gone up since I bought mine, and I'll probably end up selling mine and replacing it with a Microgranny if I can find a buyer. There are some pretty fancy features to it, but I just use mine in a really basic way.
>Oberheim Matrix-1000
A DCO-based analog synth that I'm not that crazy about. It seems to have also gone out of tune. I'm just holding onto mine while the value goes up so I can earn all the money back (since I'd have to take several hundred off the price due to its problem).

I plan on replacing it with a DSI Rev2.
>Roland JV-1080
While analog snobs like to crap all over these synths, these '90s ROMplers were great digital pad machines.

Here's a factory pad sound I'm in love with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FNQoH8RDFo

A lot of the sounds might be cheesy, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. They add a lot of that '90s and early 2000s soundtrack flavor, as these were some of the most used racks for that back then. Presets from these are all over in video games and TV shows from that era.
>Twisted Electrons AY-3
This one's a little square wave and noise generator. I barely ever use it, but it can come in handy for doing bloopy chiptune arpeggios and sound effects.
>>91
I think Van Halen only used the OB-8 when playing live. I've heard "Jump" was recorded on either an OB-X or OB-Xa.

Nice equipment, though.
>>98
>Got it free from a friend years ago, I barely use it because it's just a pain in the arse to deal with.
I have an iPad with Patch Base laying around I use to make most of my synths usable. Apple sucks, but it was worth the money for me.
>>99
>I like Arturia's DX7 plugin, it's a lot more accurate to the original than Dexed (a free DX7 plugin), it's about 95% the way there.
I think I remember reading a claim that Dexed was about the same in terms of accuracy (or even better) if you fiddle around with the settings. That might have been a reference to how it's set to a more modern sound by default.
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>>120
>While analog snobs like to crap all over these synths, these '90s ROMplers were great digital pad machines
I don't care what anyone says, late 80s and 90s ROMplers (plus "LA synthesis" machines like the D-50) are what it's all about. Something about them just sounds fantastic, whether it's pads, pianos, organs, strings, brass; it all sounds lovely.

>Presets from these are all over in video games and TV shows from that era
Yep, one of note that I know of is the original Tomb Raider trilogy, Nathan McCree used a couple of JV-1080s with the Orchestral I and II expansions for almost all the sounds. You can get a lot of the same patches, or ones that at least use the same base samples, in Roland's SRX ORCHESTRA plugin. Everything from the iconic oboe, the harp, the strings, the choir, even the vibes sound used for the "you found a secret" chime.

>I think I remember reading a claim that Dexed was about the same in terms of accuracy (or even better) if you fiddle around with the settings. That might have been a reference to how it's set to a more modern sound by default
There's an "Engine Resolution" setting to switch between "Mark I" and "Modern (24-bit)", and I'm pretty sure it used to work and everything sounded great on "Mark I" when I first started using it, but I must have updated something somewhere at some point, and now it always sounds like "Modern" no matter what I pick. I've tried rolling back to older versions, deleting registry entries and so on, but the problem remains. Might just be my setup is fucked, but I can't say for sure.

You can tell by the default patch "Say Again.", the final hit isn't supposed to sound like a horrible loud broken noise, it's supposed to sound similar to the classic TX81Z "Lately Bass" patch. I'm sure it used to sound right on the "Mark I" setting, it sounds close on "Modern" if you turn "Feedback" down to about 4, and it sounds about right in Arturia DX7 V if you load the patch onto there (minus a slight envelope timing inconsistency on OP6 for some reason), but for me it currently just sounds broken in Dexed no matter what unless you modify it.
>>121
>I don't care what anyone says, late 80s and 90s ROMplers (plus "LA synthesis" machines like the D-50) are what it's all about. Something about them just sounds fantastic, whether it's pads, pianos, organs, strings, brass; it all sounds lovely.
I think a lot of the sounds are corny, but they're often a charming kind of corny. I especially love the harp and string sounds.

And considering how much hatred the get for being preset machines, it's not like they don't have highly capable synthesis engines. The pad sound I posted is actually made up of fairly simple sounds from what I remember from examining it. They might lack the "warmth" of analogs, but they're far more versatile than most of the classic analogs and have their own character.
>Yep, one of note that I know of is the original Tomb Raider trilogy, Nathan McCree used a couple of JV-1080s with the Orchestral I and II expansions for almost all the sounds. You can get a lot of the same patches, or ones that at least use the same base samples, in Roland's SRX ORCHESTRA plugin. Everything from the iconic oboe, the harp, the strings, the choir, even the vibes sound used for the "you found a secret" chime.
Several of the Command & Conquer games are what come to mind for me. That "Dawn 2 Dusk" sound was actually used prominently in the menu music in Tiberian Sun. Red Alert was the first one to use it (the first game used a JD-990, which is often considered the better synth). There's even a track called "Terminate" that uses a preset of the same name.

I know that both factory and original sounds were used. I'd eventually love to figure out how to make a pad like the one 17 seconds into this track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V64X-aiwGuc

It's seriously one of the best pad sounds I can recall hearing, and it doesn't seem to be a preset.

This steel guitar sound in StarCraft's Terran music was also a preset:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4GbGmvNRc

Funnily enough, when I was a kid I just assumed the music in WarCraft II and StarCraft was made using "real" instruments. In reality they were just made using an SC-88 for the former and a JV-1080 for the latter.

These synths don't get enough love.
>There's an "Engine Resolution" setting to switch between "Mark I" and "Modern (24-bit)", and I'm pretty sure it used to work and everything sounded great on "Mark I" when I first started using it, but I must have updated something somewhere at some point, and now it always sounds like "Modern" no matter what I pick. I've tried rolling back to older versions, deleting registry entries and so on, but the problem remains. Might just be my setup is fucked, but I can't say for sure.
You could be right. I never tested it that much but noticed in the past that a patch I made actually sounded better in Dexed than on my hardware. I forgot to make sure my patches were set to Mark I to sound more vintage, but after listening to the patch in question just now it sounds like I remember the hardware sounding when set to Mark I.

I don't think my hearing is good enough to recognize a lot of the differences people note when comparing synths, but I always did notice how bad the "Say Again" patch sounds.
>>120
I mean they belong in the same family.
>Twisted Electrons AY-3
I hope you didn't pay the full price for that, you were better off getting ymVST unless it is for live performance

To be honest, the reason why I have not been posting here is because I have been learning how to use FL Studio via reading the Help section and manual, and messing around with two VSTs (Charlatan and JuceOPLVSTi) for the past week.

You could be fine with just a two-operator FM Synth just fine. I have been working on that for the past two years, easy to pick up yet there is a lot you can do with it. In fact, the OPL is quite capable thanks to its selection of waveforms. I don't know, maybe I like the simple synths more since I do not have to invest so much time on even understanding how I want a certain sound. I know how ASDR, filters, etc. work, but it takes time just fully realize what sound you want on a 4/6 operator FM Synth. It is why most artists use the presets, even the more famous ones.

I have been searching for VSTs this past week also, and I am still digging through them. I haven't even scratched the surface with acoustic instruments.

I would say the last time I actually messed around in an environment like FL Studio was GarageBand and that was seven or eight years ago, but it is fun getting to have the freedom on all aspects of sound design compared to something like Ignite.
>>121
>I hope you didn't pay the full price for that, you were better off getting ymVST unless it is for live performance
I did. I'm kind of OCD about having real hardware in most cases, even if nobody will be able to tell the difference.
>To be honest, the reason why I have not been posting here is because I have been learning how to use FL Studio via reading the Help section and manual, and messing around with two VSTs (Charlatan and JuceOPLVSTi) for the past week.
Nice. I've been using it for maybe ten years but don't have much to show for it other than a lot of half-finished or poorly mixed tracks (although it took me years to actually start using a MIDI controller and still can't really play anything). I love the program, though. and couldn't imagine using anything else.
>You could be fine with just a two-operator FM Synth just fine. I have been working on that for the past two years, easy to pick up yet there is a lot you can do with it. In fact, the OPL is quite capable thanks to its selection of waveforms. I don't know, maybe I like the simple synths more since I do not have to invest so much time on even understanding how I want a certain sound. I know how ASDR, filters, etc. work, but it takes time just fully realize what sound you want on a 4/6 operator FM Synth. It is why most artists use the presets, even the more famous ones.
Four operators for me are the sweet spot. Six are nice if you're going for that '80s pop sound or something, but I actually prefer the cheapo ones that you heard in video games back in the late '80s and early '90s.

As for VSTS, there's one I like called C700 that emulates the Super Nintendo sound chip. You can use sounds from actual games, but you can also use .wav files if they've got extremely low bit rates. Other than that I mainly use effects VSTs. TAL-Chorus-LX is a good free emulation of Roland's Juno-60 chorus sound, but I just use my chorus pedal if I'm actually recording something.

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Anonymous 08/19/2019 (Mon) 03:18:49 No.41 [Reply]
ITT: Guys YOU JUST KNOW are going 2 release this year's best album

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