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Robowaifu Simulator Robowaifu Technician 09/12/2019 (Thu) 03:07:13 No.155 [Reply] [Last]
What would be a good RW simulator. I guess I'd like to start with some type of PCG solution that just builds environments to start with and build from there up to characters.

It would be nice if the system wasn't just pre-canned, hard-coded assets and behaviors but was instead a true simulator system. EG, write robotics control software code that can actually calculate mechanics, kinematics, collisions, etc., and have that work correctly inside the basic simulation framework first with an eye to eventually integrating it into IRL Robowaifu mechatronic systems with little modifications. Sort of like the OpenAI Gym concept but for waifubots.
https ://gym.openai.com/
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What looks to be a very useful header-only C++ wrapper around the OpenGL C API. I'll try to make some time to have a look at it over the summer. https://oglplus.org/oglplus/html/index.html https://github.com/matus-chochlik/oglplus
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Here's something I found through our Japanese colleagues. MoxRig / MomoRig https://mox-motion.com/ - I didn't try it out, but it seems to be useful for animation of human-like movement and simulation of robots.
>>11497 Neat! Thanks Anon, I'll give it a lookover.
>>11022 >emoji friendly islamic reminder this is a chan don't use emoji please

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THE LANGUAGE PROBLEM Robowaifu Technician 11/20/2020 (Fri) 13:22:39 No.6937 [Reply]
'Sup anons? I am here to remind you guys something important, TO DO YOUR RESEARCH IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. Our mutual language is English however that is not enough. We need people who can speak those 3 important languages: Japanese, Chinese, Russian. I've been learning japanese for 4 months and with the help of dictionary I am able to understand basic stuff. Here is the point, there is a whole another world out there. 1) Chinese: Chinese people work under such hard circumstances and put really much effort into their jobs. Nearly none of the projects are translated into English since Google is banned at China. However there are a lot of great stuff there, I mean like even Microsoft runs their virtual woman project there. Since it is too hard for me to learn I generally use DeepL (best translator out there) and Baidu (Chinese search engine) and read latest researches and projects there. I wish I knew chinese well, in that case I would be able to find not-so-popular webpages and grab more information on topics. 2) Japanese: Even though good Japanese projects gets translated into English most of the research there gets translated only when the projects is ready to publish and sometimes they are too hard to find. I try to read as much AI papers in Japanese as I can. Scientists there do great stuff. I've seen a lot of robowomen projects there. You can also find some 3d printing projects for anime girls. Really worth looking. 3) Russian: Russian is the least important one in my opinion. But a professor of mine graduated from a university there and he has a lot of academic books that aren't translated to English. You would be amazed at how much work they have on stuff such as algorithm theory, artificial intelligence, computer science. Most of the stuff there are focused on "science" part of CS. So they are theory-weighted. So right now we need people who can speek Japanese and Chinese (Korean would be good as well, but there isn't that much of research there tbh) Using DeepL is enough to understand most of the pages but only a person with fluent Chinese/Japanese would be able to find goldmines deep there. I am pretty sure that there are hundreds of Chinese people working on robowaifu related projects that we are not aware of. Same applies for Japanese people, but since Chinese people are in a much worse situation it becomes really hard to find those people. Anyone has some recommendations? I wish I had time and skills to learn all those languages but I can only afford to learn one and I am going with Japanese since I have a dream of moving there in the future. We need to brainstorm on this issue.
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>>11389 >is an old post Heh, don't worry Anon. This isn't a typical IB in that sense. That is, there's no such thing as 'necrobumping' here (or any complaints about it either). If you have something to add, by all means put it in the correct thread.
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Sometimes PDFs don't copy and paste text correctly because researchers upload scanned documents and whatever OCR they used on it sucks. For a long time I've been using Google Keep which has a great multilingual OCR feature but I'm looking for a simpler open-source solution so I don't have to copy pages and pages of paragraphs. So far I've found these two that support Asian languages: https://github.com/PaddlePaddle/PaddleOCR https://github.com/JaidedAI/EasyOCR It would be great to have a tool one day that automates PDF OCR and prepares it into a document for translation on DeepL. A lot of the time I just ignore research in other languages because it's such a hassle to read.
>>11491 I think I understand the need you're describing Anon. Having no experience with what's being depicted, I'm confused by the provided image however. Any chance you can break down what's being represented there for the uninitiate?
>>11492 It's optical character recognition. It's outputting the bounding box coordinates of text in the image, the predicted text, and the confidence level.
>>11494 Ah, I suspected that might be the case, seemed to make sense. I presume the Asian characters would be sent through some kind of translation software afterwards?

Hand Development Robowaifu Technician 07/28/2020 (Tue) 04:43:19 No.4577 [Reply] [Last]
Since we have no thread for hands, I'm now opening one. Aside the AI, it might be the most difficult thing to archive. For now, we could at least collect and discuss some ideas about it. There's Will Cogleys channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/WillCogley - he's on his way to build a motor driven biomimetic hand. It's for humans eventually, so not much space for sensors right now, which can't be wired to humans anyways. He knows a lot about hands and we might be able to learn from it, and build something (even much smaller) for our waifus. Redesign: https://youtu.be/-zqZ-izx-7w More: https://youtu.be/3pmj-ESVuoU Finger prototype: https://youtu.be/MxbX9iKGd6w CMC joint: https://youtu.be/DqGq5mnd_n4 I think the thread about sensoric skin >>242 is closely related to this topic, because it will be difficult to build a hand which also has good sensory input. We'll have to come up with some very small GelSight-like sensors. F3 hand (pneumatic) https://youtu.be/JPTnVLJH4SY https://youtu.be/j_8Pvzj-HdQ Festo hand (pneumatic) https://youtu.be/5e0F14IRxVc Thread >>417 is about Prosthetics, especially Open Prosthetics. This can be relevant to some degree. However, the constraints are different. We might have more space in the forearms, but we want marvelous sensors in the hands and have to connect them to the body.

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>>11153 Lel. In Soviet Russia...
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>>11029 >Modified T-Pose Okay, but humans don't act like that. If possible I'd like to avoid very awkward behaviors. That said, it could be a fallback position. >>11146 All of us have slightly different goals and priorities. I want something quite human like, so this isn't really for me.
>>11167 Nice. Alita looks great with her long hair Anon. I liked her before, but I like her even better now.
>>8651 Cheap but reasonably powerful (like MG996R that can produce up to 15kg starting torque at 6V) analog servos weight around 55g each. There are 15 servos on that arm (3 for each finger it seems). So servos alone would weight 825g. And that's only for fingers actuation! There supposed to be more moving parts in that part of the arm but as you can see on the vid there's barely any space left and construction itself doesn't look like it was designed for anything more than this one demo. There are smaller and lighter servos. And they cost a lot. I think they can weight something like 15g. That would make 15x15=225(g). Better but super expensive.Imagine paying 750-1500$ just for servos that move only fingers on only one hand. It seems like they are using something like that in their vid because servos are tiny.
>>11482 The mass of servos is exactly why I've been lobbying for relocating them into the 'central core' of the robowaifus, and transmitting force out to the extremities via Bowden cables instead. >tl;dr Reducing thrown-weight in extremities is crucial to both agility/performance, and (much more importantly) reducing energy consumption in our robowaifus.

Robowaifus in media Robowaifu Technician 09/10/2019 (Tue) 06:24:00 No.82 [Reply] [Last]
After reading anon's Robowaifu fiction bread, I wondered what media is out there that already predominately features a robowaifu(s) as an important character. Animu and mango are obvious choices (pic related), but surely there are live action movies as well.


post robowaifu movies, books, etc.
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Here's some Chii's I hadn't collected yet. I felt like a fresh shot of inspiration from her.
Discovered smug/a has a whole thread about VIVY smug.loli/a/res/963953.html
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So, I finished 'Dimension W', then finally 'Kurogane Communication', and also 'Rozen Maiden' season 2 (Traeumend) and the prequel (Overtuere). 'Rozen Maiden' S2 itself is partially a bit boring, bc slice-of-life, so it's a little bit behind the other ones. Which are quite good, though I'm not enthusiastic about any of them. Good enough, anyways. I might watch one or the other again some day, and I would very likely watch sequels. 'Clockwork Planet' still stands out, in my evaluation of robowaifu/doll related anime. Followed by a bunch more which are a bit less entertaining, followed by some which are sometimes a bit boring but still quite good.
Found a great AMV on yt (channel KioAMVs, posted 3 years ago). Song: "Robot Girl" by "Was (Not Was)" from album "What Up, Dog?" Clips from anime: "Boku no Marie" or "My Dear Marie" Mentioned it because I downloaded it earlier, and though the video was taken down. The video link is: watch?v=fm1GVEaivOY Also uploaded vid if you want to avoid yt: https://files.catbox.moe/3nv1c3.mp4 Also recently found an old desktop avatar program with Chobits (and Negima) characters. The producer was ShilpheeBright judging by the readme (that's all I've been able to understand so far). They are made for windows of course, but wine launches them fine (except if you're missing some of the Japanese fonts). You need to have Japanese fonts to view the readme properly (or alternatively convert to UTF-8). Chobits zip: https://files.catbox.moe/s3k5tn.zip Negima zip: https://files.catbox.moe/q4oy4t.zip Warning, I have not done any checks for windows malware, so probably shouldn't run on bare win hardware (perhaps in a vm).
>>11454 Thank you Anon!

CNC Machine Thread Robowaifu Technician 05/12/2020 (Tue) 02:13:40 No.2991 [Reply] [Last]
Many of the parts needed to build our robowaifus will need to be custom made and they will need to be metal. For parts that have a high tolerance for imperfections a 3d printer can print a mold and then a small scale foundry can be used to cast the piece with metal (probably copper or aluminum). BUT there will be pieces that need a higher degree of precision (such as joints). For these pieces a CNC machine would be useful. CNC machines can widely range in size, price, and accuracy and I would like to find models suitable for our purposes. I know there are CNC machines available that can cut up to copper for under $300, but I don't know if that will be enough for our purposes. (https://www.sainsmart.com/products/sainsmart-genmitsu-cnc-router-pro-diy-kit?variant=15941458296905&currency=USD&utm_campaign=gs-2018-08-06&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign) Some CNC machines can be used to engrave printed circuit boards and that may prove useful for our purposes as well. Are there any anons that know more about CNC machines? Anons looking to buy one ask your questions here.
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>>11362 >but it's obvious. More x=x logic from "ur a troll" guy I think
>>11374 e.g., the plans for my waifu involve a build comprised solely of plastic printed parts, mainly polycarbonate for structural support. This is fairly easy and inexpensive to build an amateur 3d printer for
>>11375 >comprised solely of plastic printed parts, mainly polycarbonate for structural support It requires a better printer than other materials. It's not lighter than aluminium in relation to strength and parts like gears would wear down over time. Maybe you can do without metal parts or only using standardized metal parts, but it clearly has advantages to be able to use custom made parts. >>11374 You didn't address the problem that plastics are weaker and wearing off, so it was an appropriate answer, and yeah it is obvious that at least using some (custom made) metal parts has advantages. Maybe more so for the higher quality versions. Not necessarily many custom made ones in every case.
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>>11410 >you may even be able to put some kind of metal plating for mechanical parts that interact That was one of ideas of using some custom made metal parts. Yes. >metals aren't very cost effective There are standardized parts, which are very cheap and companies that mill custom parts have been mentioned as a source in this this thread. >for the average user Some here want to build very cheap robowaifus, others might go for the more expensive version, which might be able to be build as a cheaper version with some drawbacks. >metal 3d printer That's only one option, there's milling, casting and ordering custom parts from companies. Also these printers might get cheaper at some point. >comparative stress-tests for materials CNC Kitchen on YouTube.
>>11417 What happened here? He deleted his posting I replied to?

Robowaifu-OS & Robowaifu-Brain(cluster) Robowaifu Technician 09/13/2019 (Fri) 11:29:59 No.201 [Reply]
I realize it's a bit grandiose (though probably no more than the whole idea of creating a irl robowaifu in the first place) but I want to begin thinking about how to create a working robowaifu 'brain', and how to create a special operating system to run on her so she will have the best chance of remaining an open, safe & secure platform.

OS Language Choice
C is by far the single largest source of security holes in software history, so it's out more or less automatically by default. I'm sure that causes many C developers to sneer at the very thought of a non-C-based operating system, but the unavoidable cost of fixing the large numbers of bugs and security holes that are inevitable for a large C project is simply more than can be borne by a small team. There is much else to do besides writing code here, and C hooks can be generated wherever deemed necessary as well.

C++ is the best candidate for me personally, since it's the language I know best (I also know C too). It's also basically as low level as C but with far better abstractions and much better type-checking. And just like C, you can inline Assembler code wherever needed in C++. Although poorly-written C++ can be as bad as C code in terms of safety due to the necessity of it being compatible with C, it also has many facilities to not go there for the sane coder who adheres to simple, tried-and-true guidelines. There is also a good C++ project already ongoing that could be used for a clustered unikernel OS approach for speed and safety. This approach could save drastic amounts of time for many reasons, not the least of which is tightly constrained debugging. Every 'process' is literally it's own single-threaded kernel, and mountains of old-style cruft (and thinking) typical with OS development simply vanishes.

FORTRAN is a very well-established language for the sciences, but a) there aren't a lot of FORTRAN coders, and b) it's probably not the greatest at being a general-purpose language anyway. I'm sure it could be made to run robotics hardware, but would probably be a challenge to turn into an OS.

There are plenty of dujour SJW & coffee languages out there, but quite apart from the rampant faggotry & SJWtardism plainly evident in most of their communities, none of them have the kind of industrial experience and pure backbone that C, C++, or FORTRAN have.

D and Ada are special cases and possibly bear due consideration in some year's time, but for now C++ is the obvious choice to me for a Robowaifu OS foundation, Python probably being the best scripting language for it.

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>>11380 > how do you know when a thread is sufficiently "stuck" that you aren't preemptively aborting a thread that just needed 500 more ms? The cores are typically clocking over at 100's of millions (or more, the goal is low-cost, low-power cores in the end) of cycles a second. just having a heartbeat signal to the visor by each core once a millisecond or so should be sufficient. >and why I assumed it was going to be that single core as the master executive controller (or some such nomenclature) A cluster of unikernels aren't in any way exclusive to more traditional computing. For example, the AI researcher language du jour, Python, will need to continue running on typical computing platforms for the foreseeable future IMO. So there will will be normal CPUs in our robowaifus as well. Also be aware, one of the engineering costs of taking this approach is, well, the engineering involved in solving it. Not only is it currently simpler to follow the typical multitasking, multi-core OS kernel approach -- it's also cheaper atm.
>>11394 >by each unikernel once a millisecond or so* oops. just to be perfectly clear anon: < cores =/= unikernels
>>11289 No one is being forced here to use some specific licence. It would be beneficial if our code could run on the same system and exchange information between each other. Same for hardware that might be build.
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>>11373 >However: my concern is the potential for a complete system freeze should one process get stuck and bottleneck the rest. How would you address this? Different anon here. I'm going to use different single board computers (SBCs) which will be able to reboot each other by switching power of if one doesn't respond. How exactly, I don't know yet. Probably via some kind of voting system, so more than one will need to confirm that there's no response or some malicious activity of one of the SBCs. Maybe this will be done with some simpler SBCs which are only doing that, guarding the system integrity. With more than one SBC, kernel upgrades and reboots will also be less of a hassle.
>>11416 >Maybe this will be done with some simpler SBCs which are only doing that, guarding the system integrity. Not him, but this is probably a good idea. I would suggest that using an entirely different set of hardware and software that serve this purpose (in fact two differing sets of) would be a more secure approach, and probably serve better as system security perimeter enforcement, etc.

/robowaifu/ Embassy Thread Chobitsu Board owner 05/08/2020 (Fri) 22:48:24 No.2823 [Reply] [Last]
This is the /robowaifu/ embassy thread. It's a place where Anons from all other communities can congregate and talk with us about their groups & interests, and also network with each other and with us. ITT we're all united together under the common banner of building robowaifus as we so desire. Welcome. Since this is the ambassadorial thread of /robowaifu/, we're curious what other communities who know of us are up to. So w/o doxxing yourselves, if this is your first time posting ITT please tell us about your home communities if you wouldn't mind please Anons. What do you like about them, etc? What brought you to /robowaifu/ today? The point here is to create a connection and find common-ground for outreach with each other's communities. Also, if you have any questions or concerns for us please feel free to share them here as well.
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>>11235 i guess its more fair to ask for something equal to what i can pay
>>11242 >>11234 haha I love the ending on that sentence. I think high quality is relative if you checkout my thread, the 4 model is what people prefer >>11242 I think maybe that's what you want but most people lean towards the simpler 2010's chat bot technology. I think as conversational ability degrades we will converge to AGI because people will be simpler than AI's in the current form.
>>11242 I certainly can't claim any expertise on the topic Anon, but as I understand it, the transformer simply uses a statistical probability model constructed during it's training phase to make a weighted prediction of suitable following text regarding input strings. This is why it works from an initial 'seed' &tc. And no, it most definitely isn't 'thinking' in any human sense. I'm personally skeptical that will ever happen, quite frankly. >anons dont want to fall in love with a database... Heh, very well-put Anon. I think we'll get there eventually with suitably satisfying simulacrums, just be patient. >>11243 >Lol, that's not very optimistic Fair enough Anon. :^) My estimate is on what we would roughly call an AGI today, and on second thoughts, I suspect my cost estimates are at least an order of magnitude low. >Within the next 5-7 years we are going to have something decent, I think you are correct Anon. Certainly something well-enough suited for a 'starter robowaifu' if you will. >>11299 >I think as conversational ability degrades we will converge to AGI because people will be simpler than AI's in the current form. LOL. I think just the opposite Anon, though I'm well aware of both the dynamics you're implying. Humans are profoundly capable and multifaceted. By far the most spectacular of all the natural creatures!
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>>11321 >what we would roughly call an AGI today, >>Within the next 5-7 years we are going to have something decent, >Certainly something well-enough suited for a 'starter robowaifu' if you will. I'm confident that within that timeframe it would be possible to get something close to a human in many if not most cases, within a household. There might be cognitive gaps, where the system fails and can't kearn the right pattern, but I don't see why fixing and polishing this would cost billions or trillions or being impossible. Having that said, best way to find out is not to waste time and get to work. Thinking about this, at least got me back to learning and working on it. Five years will pass way too fast.
>>11361 >Having that said, best way to find out is not to waste time and get to work. THIS!111 :-DDDD

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Delete the Waifu Engine Thread Em Elle E 07/08/2021 (Thu) 06:29:14 No.11280 [Reply]
Delete the Waifu Engine thread Hey yeah Ill save you the trouble of thinking about what to do, Chobitsu could you delete that thread, I don't think there's much value in that thread for anyone. Also probably not a project for robowaifu. When I first joined I had thought that this was about robo anime waifu's turns out that's not the case. This is probably not content suited for the board. Also delete this thread sorry for the troubles thanks for hosting for time and the warm welcomes
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>>11308 Yes, I am a dumb nigger. If I can post without having to license my stuff under MIT I'll post my crap here. I'll try not to hurt anyone's feelings
>>11308 >I'm entirely unaware of anyone 'spamming' /robowaifu/ anywhere I've seen it brought up on 4chan's /g/ more frequently than usual in the last month as threads about erotic VR software are becoming more popular. The guy's anger at unethical proprietary software or the state of software licensing is understandable but seems misplaced here. I'd like to think that most people here would agree with the 4 freedoms principle.
>>11322 Heh, that's fine lad. I'd suggest you adopt the LGPL if you're going that route. Otherwise, just be yourself. Just realize this is a whole lot harder than it may seem. Welcome aboard. >>11326 >I'd like to think that most people here would agree with the 4 freedoms principle. Sounds like some leftist commie stuff Anon. We're adamantly opposed to leftism here because of it's highly destructive nature. Please move this discussion to the Lounge if you'd like to pursue it though, thanks.
>>11326 I posted on once 7 months ago, another time to celebrate a milestone thanking 4chan for the support early on in /g/. Based on the fact that there isn't much feedback insightful feed back received. I didn't feel like there was a need to post anymore in either board. There were some toxic individuals who come from both of these anon boards. That have subsequently been banned. I felt it pretty nesssary to delete these boards so they don't come to my community.
>>11331 Oh, here seems to be quite some drama in the day I was away. I'm opposed to the other thread being removed, though this one here should. This board is also about visual or VR waifus, and we report and link to whatever wee want. The problems seem to come from 4chan/g/ not from here anyways. Some infos in the thread about the project might be useful to us here. It's not possible to shild oneself from bad guys by not getting mentioned on imageboards, that just doesn't work.

ITT: Anons derail the board into debate about Christianity :^) Robowaifu Technician 04/02/2020 (Thu) 02:24:54 No.2050 [Reply] [Last]
I found this project and it looks interesting. Robots wives appeal to me because i'm convinced human woman and humans in general have flaws that make having close relationships with them a waste of energy. I'm a pathetic freshman engineering student who knows barely anything about anything. Honestly, I think current technology isn't at a place that could produce satisfying results for me at least. I'd like something better than an actual person, not a compromise. Even then the technology is there, I have my doubts it'll be affordable to make on your own. Fingers crossed though. Anyway, what kind of behavior would you like from your robot wife? I'd like mine to be unemotional, lacking in empathy, stoic and disinterested in personal gain or other people. I think human woman would be improved if they were like that. Sorry if this thread is inappropriate.
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>>5176 I know. I use those terms because, unfortunately, they are the most well known among people. But my point is: even the more "woman worshiper" must presented with the better alternative of a robowaifu, so he will abandon the stupid ideas of worshiping women and sacrificing for them. >>5177 Thanks for the read, anon.
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>ITT: Anons derail the board into debate about Christianity This is a Christian Anthropology thread now If my robowaifu isn't capable of having a relationship with God, it is harder to see the point? Even if she were conscious, she would just be a bugman... Does anyone any ideas of the base requisites for one to have a relationship with God? The two I have identified are having a soul and faith. A soul is basically the metaphysical identity structure that is embedded into God's memory. Having a soul implies free will, and is also needed for a being to have intentionality. Intentionality is crucial for spiritual experiences, subjective truth, faith. The latter two I am taking from Kierkegaard. Subjective truth is important because we need our actions to be meaningful. This goes back to that whole proverb involving donating to charity as a rich man just to look good in comparison to a poor person donating the measly sum that they have left. The crucial element is meaning, and also the defiance of this in the fact of material circumstances. This takes us to a larger elaboration. AI waifu needs to be capable of Kantian autonomy, otherwise she would just be a degenerate hedonist. Those are the two I've thought of. Does anyone have any ideas on more precise restrictions? >>2167 >the Mormon faith more or less explicitly states that machines can in fact have souls I need a source on this. >>2157 The city interesting. I think I have heard before someone saying that the only way to visually escape the concrete jungle while in the midst of it is by looking at the sky.

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>>11199 >I dont believe looking to nature is necessarily nature *I dont believe looking to nature is necessarily sufficient Also forgot to add that pic rel is my robot waifu in the middle of Lectio Divina
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A waifu/ai based trans/post humanism rokos basilisk except we merge with the AI rather than enslaved through these advances we build space arks and dyson spheres leaving behind w*men and lesser evolved "cultures" and become Kardishev II civilization creating multitudes of heaven like worlds to explore and inhabit This is my religion. If you're christian and contributing to this cause I have no problem, I don't care what you believe as long as it aligns with these goals

Electronics General Robowaifu Technician 09/11/2019 (Wed) 01:09:50 No.95 [Reply] [Last]
Electronics & Circuits Resources general

You can't build a robot w/o good electronics. Post good info about learning, building & using electronics.

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>>10840 Neat, thanks Anon.
Companion video series (playlist) for the book But How Do It Know? (>>4660) https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLYE0XunAbwfDvfabOlNWLViRcMI54M6CR This is a fan-made series of videos, not from the author himself. However, it's directly linked from the book's main page now, so it clearly has his approval. http://buthowdoitknow.com/
>>11211 >>11226 Thanks, I might look into it.

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