this thread is kinda dead but I'd recommend using your time for voice recognition and endearing expressiveness, it'd be a lot simpler and less time consuming/realistic than getting a good voice output program going, and it being bad could even make it worse so maybe some little simple wings, some legs, and a cute face, with voice recognition and facial/body expressions, but mute that functionality will of course be added later, but much more important than functionality upon base release is the initial push into more people's radar to bring in more money, innovation, and competition, kind like with VR headsets

>>10227 Good points Anon.

>>10227 (Part One) To further elaborate on this idea, and then the technicalities of it and its relative benefits to a completely human body, take a look at this harpy (image one, very very cute, artist is rnd.jpg) and imagine that you want to build something along the lines of this model. The biggest and most apparent differences are, of course, the wings and the legs, which you may think would complicate the build further, but it's the contrary, as it would eliminate; 1. The needs for human hands and feet, which have just a fuckin shitload of bones in them, which in turn makes for much more complex construction. for instance, a single bird's wing (image two) only have three joints from the main connector at the 'shoulder', compared to humans, who have 27 in just a single hand, a much smaller and dense space. The legs (image three) have even less, with a single 'ankle' joint and a 'knee' joint, although depending on the style of feet for the bird species the toe phalanges (up to five a toe in some species!) may give some trouble, but that could be circumvented by simply creating the foot of a species with less of them lol So not only would the construction be much easy, but it would have a higher relative quality. 2. The problem of the uncanny valley that could be triggered by limbs and/or appendages trying to perfectly resemble those of humans and failing. We have such a response to the uncanny valley because we're socialized with humans to notice even the slightest thing that's off, but we don't have nearly the same capability with other species, on top of the anatomy of certain ones being much easier to deal with. Both those points are pretty applicaple to several different species of monster girls as a whole, and make them, in my opinion, a much more viable alternative in this stage of robowaifus, much in the same way some anons push for RWs that go out of their way to not appear human while still being endearing. (shoutout to /monster/) (Part Two) So on the other side of this proposal is the actual interaction and how such things could be done for max 'oh god oh fuck I wanna cuddle you'. Both for capitalistic budgeting/marketing and also because I would want one for myself.

>>10237 Very nice post Anon. I liked the details you went into about the bones/joints, and the /comfy/ homelife scenario you painted of Anon and his RoboPetgirl . Just like as seems very commonplace in my favorite Chinese Cartoons on the subject, and as you brought up too, some way to solidly imprint a waifu (whether RW or Petgirl) onto her master alone needs to be solved. The obvious idea is some type of bioinformatics scanning system for the Anon to use. I'd be hesitant to use just one method -- say voice -- alone. Too easy to mimic. In general I'd say emotiveness is a very fundamental part of Character Appeal (one of Frank & Ollie's 12 Principles) , and is something we all need to be creative about addressing well. Also, the eye color-shift thing is a nice idea.

>>10237 Glad I found your post anon. A sub one meter waddling very fluffy harpy petwife that makes cute squeaks sounds really nice. Will save your "features list" for reference. As for recognizing her master, we can start really simple and have an RF (radio frequency tag) ring which the owner wears, and the robot will just triangulate the location of that ring. Then only voice or facial recognition if the system is secure and not in the wrong hands.

>>10252 That's helpful thanks. I wonder why they discontinued her?

>>10253 Toy lines always fall out of style, it was inevitable

>>10254 I see, makes sense. BTW, apparently here's the page for her on the guy who made the video. http://robotsrule.com/html/femisapien.php Thanks for bringing her up Anon.

>>10249 >Mark Tilden Neat. I didn't even know about him Anon, thanks.

>>10245 Wow, his original robot had a duckface for me, but her companions are much cuter in my opinion. Time to invest in large OLED displays I guess. I've tried plain LCDs since they were cheap but you can't see anything and the backlight is uneven.

Since I have personally taken over OP's thread entirely, I'm going to repost his original OP here in the first reply post. This is both to honor the OP for bringing the topic up in the first place, and also to ensure we have a basic archive of the post itself here. The full text of Anon's post follows: >--- > Teleoperation of machines is not a new idea. I guess all of us had a moment when we were contemplating to let human operators participate in the control of some robowaifu or thotbot. Probably none of us would really want that, and the idea comes with a lot of questions. Most of us might even like the idea of having a limited AI in a female body, which we would train, much more than dealing with a robot controlled by one or several humans. This is also a matter of identity. A robowaifu with some AI is exactly that, while a remote controlled bot is something else. In many ways related, but still somehow something different. Since it could be seen as a transitional state of the technology, I still think it's on topic here, though. Also the lines might be blurry, since the contributions from the outside would be filtered, constrained and altered. > Also, we real robowaifu enthusiasts here might just not be like everyone. We are probably outliers. Also, we are not able to create a good chatbot yet, which could be talked to in a meaningful way. I have no doubt, we'll be getting there soon. However, some of us might not want to wait, others certainly won't. > So let's stay open minded when looking for (temporary) alternatives and at least think their feasibility and challenges through. > Sandman (MGTOW) had a idea like this a while ago: Letting some women participate in the upcoming "sexrobot industry" by giving them jobs where they would be participating in the actions and responses of the bot. His main argument was, that this would split possible opposition into a group opposed to all of it and the ones profiting, hoping to profit or caring about those who do. >>8187 > Another aspect might be, that many men are not open for using fembots for sex or as companions. Maybe for personal reasons, others for social reasons, like shaming. Having a transition phase might be helpful. > I do recall, other people having the idea of using chatbots for customer support, which can switch over to take in responses by an operator. A more recent and more ambitious example I saw, was some brief report about a robot cafe in Japan, where handicapped people control the robots from home. They're staff then, but are probably also supposed to interact with the guests. > Thoughts on execution: > - One thing is, the ones interested in this topic should come up with a good vocabulary for it. The women contributing are not the operators, for example, but their responses are a commodity which they provide. So they're rather contributors or imaginators, idk. More unofficial terms could be something like 'remote thots', dependent on the use case.

>>9709 >Also, the intricacies of pulling off implementing these restraints correctly, and still allowing for an appealing, effective, and fun engagement for the Anon himself is actually quite a dramatic challenge & achievement. IMO this will be one of the chief hurdles to overcome. And since it's solution's characteristics will have many cascading-type implications for most of the following design & engineering R&D, I'd suggest that it be the primary focus for us all to address very early on.

Yale OpenHand Project
This looks interesting.

www.eng.yale.edu/grablab/openhand/

Hand exoskeleton project from a Swiss bio-inspired academic robotics lab.
biorob.epfl.ch/research/research-rehabilitation/page-158960-en-html/

While looking for bionic hands I found some open-source files, which I believe were used as a base for the Hero Arm >>9690 https://openbionicslabs.com/downloads

>>10071 Nice find Anon, thanks. Looks like they've gone through a progression to arrive at the current design.

>>8082 Older children also tend to search around without permission or touch everything lying around. So I would put a warning into the case with the solder, telling them to put it back and wash their hands immediately. Also put a shiny warning label onto it.

Guide to Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) and Industrial Control Systems Security Recommendations of the National Institute of Standards and Technology

I'm a bit of a mad scientist trying to develop self-aware AI but I haven't put much thought into how I'm actually going to interact with it once it works. While only an AI the obvious safety measures are limiting the amount of resources it can use and making sure it can't run arbitrary code or exploit vulnerabilities, but having a robowaifu that is aware she is a machine is a completely different problem altogether. There's no way an AI with less parameters than a mouse brain and the lack of a limbic system stimulating it with desires will pose much of a threat but it could still potentially do a lot of harm either intentionally or unintentionally by exploring the environment. At the most basic level one way to limit injury to myself and any damage to property is to create an override system that prevents any dangerous intentions from being acted upon and logging these incidents but this will require being able to identify dangerous intentions. This system would have to be more advanced than the AI otherwise it might find ways around it like placing objects in certain ways that will cause me to trip and fall. Another plan is to have an emergency stop, both a physical button on the robowaifu, a remote one and a voice-activated one. Although these are fine and dandy I don't think they address the core issue of the AI making decisions that cause harm or cause destruction, again either intentionally or unintentionally. I think it will be similar in some ways to raising a child and teaching her not to break shit, but also much different since AI can learn specific tasks so much faster than a human being but at the same time also fail to generalize what was learned to other tasks. There's a lot of instinctual knowledge in our genetics that we take for granted. For instance, something like mirror neurons might be required for machines to learn empathy. Some researchers hypothesize that mirror neurons are required for self-awareness itself because they give the ability to introspect one's own previous mental states. If that is the case, self-awareness might not be so dangerous. Perhaps the best way to explore this would be in the form of a story or visual novel and start from the very beginning of the AI discovering she can look around and move her hands and perhaps getting confused about going to 'sleep' when she's shutdown at night because several hours disappear and everything changes. With each scenario I could try to think of ways to tweak her, like so she actually finds it logical to shutdown at night and gains trust in me by having a system to automatically boot her up in the morning. I think building a bond and trust between each other will be essential. I'm afraid of her hurting me and she will be confused what she even is while not having the same human limbic impulses like a fear of death, being hungry and so on. Emotions are essentially thoughts with momentum, so I believe a self-aware and sufficiently capable AI will gradually develop its own emotions that are very different from human ones. This might include a desire for self-preservation and fear of any unpredictable behavior. One important feature may happen to be an energy function of some sort that reduces the robowaifu's power consumption as the battery gets low or as the day goes on and the robowaifu becoming aware of this process, that if she runs out of energy she blacks out. Anyway, if I have any good thought experiments I'll post them in the robowaifu fiction thread. And like the OP states, it's probably best to train the AI in a simulation first before training in the real world.

>>10059 >I'm a bit of a mad scientist trying to develop self-aware AI Welcome brother! Make yourself right a home here, you're among fellows. I think we may all be just a bit mad here.

>>10059 We're partially programming them. Problem solved. No, I won't engage in speculations on how to do that exactly. You'll see when I'll put something out, or you can do it yourself.

Quads for Yuzuki. She gets entirely too little love. She's beautiful, charming, warm, refined, loving, attentive. You could hardly desire a better robowaifu in my opinion.

>>9999 patrician choice quad get confirms

>>9999 Lol, military boots for a maid?

I am not sure if she couns but Octavia prime is hot as fuck and kinda a robot. She has a great visible/hidden asset ratio. Warframe doesn't seem to start atm but if the game starts i will post my Octavia with good angles. I don't play any instrument but i really like how she has soo many in her design, her heels look great with her long legs. I love how her skirt sometimes flaps and shows her perfect ass for a second.

I had no idea this manga existed but the design for my robowaifu looks and has a similar personality to Asebi from Asebi and Adventurers of Sky World, like a 90% match. I feel like I need to give her bit of a makeover so she doesn't have a My Dear Marie moment one day.

The links were messed up I referenced here they are again. Planetary roller screws >>9958 And I got the name wrong it's Dielectric Elastomers >>8502

>>10047 BTW, you should be able to delete your own posts to clean things up a bit Anon.

It wouldn't let me. Asked for another password???? It appears that it will only let you delete the very last post you made and not the one before it. If you would delete it I would appreciate it. Sorry for screwing it up. I think I figured out how link correctly now.

>>10051 No worries, done. It's not based on post recency (AFAICT), but is based on your IP. Your address probably changed since. Happens with Tor frequently, or with phoneposting from time to time. >I think I figured out how link correctly now. It's easy if you just click on the little post number at the end of a post's headline (if you have JS enabled). BTW, thanks Anon.

>>10623 Sounds good, done. >No one needs more work. No worries it's fine. It's literally in everyone's interest to have things well-organized Anon.

- Studies on pets and the ability to bond and love - Behavior examples for bonding - e.g. bonding over food - Williams Syndrom - Also, the origin of elves https://youtu.be/aDVS8PlNM8M

>>9888 That was cute, literally Hitler Anon. Maybe /robowaifu/ should be about wuffgrills, rather than catgrills do you think? > Dog >>>>>>>>>> Cats

>>9890 OT: I prefer cats as pets, bc they require less work and attention. For someone mostly at home, at least.

>>9888 >Also, the origin of elves. I'm afraid that's only part of the story anon. The real origin of elves goes much further back in history (real world history, not 'Middle Earth' history). The original elves come from Old Norse mythology (mainly Icelandic). Way, way before the notion of Christmas elves, J.R.R Tolkien or 'faeries/fairys', the ancient Proto-Germanic peoples (750BC) referred to the 'alßiz', which translates to 'white beings'. (As in ghostly, ethereal white, rather than Caucasian flesh 'white'). Over time, this term turned into the Old English word 'ælf', which is where we get names like 'Alfred' and 'Elgar' There some info on Wikipedia if you're interested - not that this makes it set-in-stone, mind you. It just sounds legit to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf#Old_Norse_texts And the hypothesized word-root of 'elf' on Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/albiz I particularly like an idea written in the late thirteenth-century text 'South English Legendary' that describes elves as angels who sided neither with Lucifer nor with God during the War in Heaven, and were banished by God to Earth rather than Hell. But yes, Williams Syndrome is certainly related. Physicians, being well-read and intelligent people, may have seen such patients in the 17th/18th century and - having read about mythical elves from older texts - put two and two together. Sorry to go off on a tangent anon, but I'm a bit of a fan of Elven things.

>>9888 We would literally change the world for the better if we can just create AIs & relatively inexpensive robowaifu kits that can simply achieve the level of a good dog, relationship-wise. It will be nothing short of revolutionary if we can manage this.

>>9564 While we all should exercise all due diligence with our own efforts, globohomo (((cautions & guidelines))) are often questionable at best. I would suggest that the more females are involved in the """investigation""", the more likely it is to be antithetical to rational evaluation, rightly balancing risks and rewards. I'd suggest we keep our eyes and ears open for safety issues, but regard the majority of health guidelines with blatant skepticism and a huge grain of salt. Is there any other need in this regard than mentioning the plainly deceptive example of the current evil machinations surrounding the Covid 'crisis', Anon?

>>9566 We can be sceptical about everything to some extent. It's probably a matter of trust, but we shouldn't ignore such guidelines. I won't. I still doubt that people would throw their scientific training and reputation away just to make things up. If you want to discuss that in some extended way, let's do it in the basement >>39

>>9588 Fair enough. Commonsense is justified. Just don't go acting like women over it, running around like a chicken with it's head cut off being blatantly manipulated over every.little.warning. They plainly will try to destroy us as a community legally, or by any other means they can contrive. Preemptively aborting the entire effort in the first place through hand-wringing fear on our parts would tickle their humors, I expect. Ridiculously, some people actually wear the masks willingly today. /robowaifu/ will never become an enclave of those types of people, friend.

This >>9564 is about using the right materials for the job when building something, and being aware of the constraints. Let's stay on topic please.

>>9592 I personally consider the discussion to be on-topic, board-health wise. Let's review: -we all should exercise all due diligence with our own efforts -rightly balancing risks and rewards -we [should] keep our eyes and ears open for safety issues -Commonsense is justified, but don't be overly fearful like some woman Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, just one: Our enemies will stop at nothing to destroy us. Demonic gaslighting is a favorite technique for them due to it's comedic effect. Again, all on topic for my part.

>>6929 We wish you well Anon.

>>107 I believe it possible, but if the user knows it's a robot then it wouldn't really work. The robot's words/personality would have to come very close to "real".

>>8915 It's been a while since I watched it, but 'Plastic Memories' covers that topic in anime.

>>6929 Wait... Kibo-chan dev lurks here? Pierce the freaking heavens with your servos! It's crazy that creating a waifu that gives hope doesn't seem like such an insurmountable task anymore. I just finished the first reward model prototype for training chatbots with human feedback and we should be able to give our waifus feedback on how much our spirits are raised. It'd be amazing to have my own Kibo-chan that lifts my spirits when I'm down. It's sad Dyinganon probably didn't get to live to see such a thing.. but one day many will rejoice our efforts and the years we spent beating our heads on a wall until we broke through, and the love and devotion of our robowaifus will become an inspiration and a path for others to follow.

>>9561 >It's sad Dyinganon probably didn't get to live to see such a thing.. but one day many will rejoice our efforts and the years we spent beating our heads on a wall until we broke through, and the love and devotion of our robowaifus will become an inspiration and a path for others to follow. F Godspeed to us all Anon.