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HAPPY BIRTHDAY /ROBOWAIFU/ Robowaifu Technician Board owner 11/27/2019 (Wed) 17:27:05 No.1591 [Reply]
4th Birthday Edition greeting here: >>7224 Well it's Thanksgiving time again and that means it's /robowaifu/s birthday time too. It's been 3 full years since we began, and this last one has been a bit of a ride tbh. With the deplatforming of 8ch all of us who had communities there were mostly left out in the cold. Thankfully we've been given a new home here in our bunker at Julay, and a few of us have found our way back together here. Hopefully the rest of us will find Julay, and /robowaifu/ again as well. We've also made some new friends since we've been here, and I think we're in pretty good shape all things considered. On the topic of deplatforming, we have a new archival system in action that keeps a copy of the board up to date on my machine. Note that my original intent was to fully automate the archive.today archives, but it hasn't worked properly (they seem to be fighting against bots pretty hard now). I hope at least one other of you will also join in for the approach that's actually working, and use BUMP to keep at least one other copy of /robowaifu/ safe in addition to my own. You never know what might happen to my gear (or even to me), and it's just smart thinking to have at least two of us keeping this board safe. My intent is to finish up the system for board migrations (along with Robi), and then bring over other things from the old files and get this board in shape again. Then we can keep it fully backed up together. As you regulars know, /robowaifu/ is basically unique among imageboards and deserves preserving IMO. Any other takers for doing backups as well? I just use a cronjob and it's all fully automatic daily I never have to touch it. I'll explain everything in detail how to do it if anyone else wants to participate. One other thing; should anything ever happen to Julay, just regroup on Fatchan in our bunker-bunker there. Actually, I'm pretty upbeat about both the world of IB communities in general, and our own /robowaifu/ in particular. We all took a hard knock a few months ago, but we're back on our feet and in the fight again. Kudos to Julay and Smug in particular for their innovations with the webring. It's lent a resilience to the underlying systems for all our various communities that we've never had before afaict. This alone should help to ensure we have a long future of shitposting together anons. Anyway moving on, I hope this coming year will also see a resurgence in everyone's posts here about their personal projects. I intend to do so myself. It's always a pleasure to see anon's efforts and blog-posts about their current attempts and ideas, regardless whether they are successes or failures. Persistence is really the single most important factor for eventual success--even more than innate talent--and so just don't quit anon! Don't be afraid to get back in the game even if you met with failure before. Try something different this time, right? Industry-wise, I think that most predictions about the ever-increasing pace of technological innovations in the areas pertinent to robowaifu production are on track. I believe this will eventually also translate into much cheaper components and other resources that we all need for our projects. AI is gradually improving and becoming more accessible for the budding software engineers among us (and the old hands too). 3D printing is still improving and becoming more widespread and a bit cheaper in general. Mechanism designs are slowly becoming better suited to cheap production techniques. Electronics of all sorts keep getting better. Materials science breakthroughs also pop up occasionally.

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>>8856 Thank, I'm going to try it. Thanks for the reminder.
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>>8856 I don't have a Raspberry Pi yet, but I did find this program called 'Chan Thread Watch' for Windows 10 that can download the html of each thread. Sorry if I'm doing it wrong - I'm a complete spastic when it comes to this sort of thing.
>>8860 Yes. I have played about installing a couple of different Linux distros on virtual machines in the past, and with the instructions about BUMP written on here, I should be able to make a proper backup. Thanks for pointing that out anon!
>>8900 Well if you have any questions just give a shout Anon. I've been doing stuff like VMs for about five years now (it's how I finally managed to escape the MicroStasi gulag).

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Making money with AI and robowaifus Robowaifu Technician 11/30/2019 (Sat) 03:07:12 No.1642 [Reply]
The greatest challenge to building robowaifus is the sheer cost of building robots and training AI. We should start brainstorming ways we can leverage our abilities with AI to make money. Even training AI quickly requires expensive hardware and computer clusters. The faster we can increase our compute power, the more money we can make and the quicker we can be on our way to building our robowaifus. Art Generation Waifu Labs sells pillows and posters of the waifus it generates, although this has caused concern and criticism due to it sometimes generating copyrighted characters from not checking if generated characters match with training data. https://waifulabs.com/ Deepart.io provides neural style transfer services. Users can pay for expedited service and high resolution images. https://deepart.io/ PaintsChainer takes sketches and colours them automatically with some direction from the user, although it's not for profit it could be turned into a business with premium services. https://paintschainer.preferred.tech/index_en.html I work as an artist and have dabbled with training my own AIs that can take a sketch and generate many different thumbnails that I've used to finish paintings. I've also created an AI that can generate random original thumbnails from a training set. In the future when I have more compute power my goal is to create an AI that does the mundane finishing touches to my work which consumes over 80% of my time painting. Applying AI to art will have huge potential in entertainment and marketing for animation, games and virtual characters. Market Research

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>>8944 >I don't know of anything to go off of that has done something similar successfully Heh, well we haven't let that stop us here before. Trailblazing new frontiers is always notoriously difficult Anon. Generally speaking, only the strong survive intact through it all. So go for it and see what comes out! >Maybe I'll write up the story, Please do. Anon. >that will eventually lead to a "Icarus tier" petbot Sounds interesting. Mind telling us more about that?
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>>8945 It's from "Sora No Otoshimono". Icarus, was basically a robot that was made by "Angels" and was considered a "pet-class-angeloid" (for Pleasure). She also doubles as a guard...(The backstory is that these angels/advanced-race that have lived for eons made the literal perfect robowaifu) My point though, was under the fantasy that I can successfully get the funds, and use the funds in the right way, we make a waifubot that is better than the "real" thing. >A bot that can love, >A bot that can feel, >A bot that doesn't tire, doesn't sleep, always ready to protect their master. Other than that, making the gacha game's basic game engine and getting it released should be the easy part. I am not entirely sure how hard or expensive it is to get a good artist. If the art isn't good, the game's profits won't be there. Plus, unless I figure out some sort of crazy good game on mobile, without the art it will be nothing. Genshin Impact, while I don't really care for the exact play-style, I think an RPG using multiple characters could work. Something where the players build bots, and "leveling up" will be when certain bots reaches new levels of intelligence/sentience (like level 1 the bot can only chat at a low level, and level 2 the bot can move, and like level 100 the bot can pass as a literal person). Gear would just be whatever upgrades for the bots. If the combat is reliant on a story, it might turn into a "Gender War" type thing. Of which I would be okay with, but it seems there are a lot of botbros who overly passive that might not like the potential of it being a big blip on {{{their}}} radar. Plus it seems some of the "women awareness" threads have been locked, so the story might be hard to figure out if I am restricted by certain rules due to the community. I've been looking into it tonight, it's bothersome as it seems if it does become a fairly big hit, lawyers will be needed. I never really understood why these big game companies paid their lawyers more than their software engineers, but I guess it's because it's so easy to harass a company that it becomes necessary. The game engine could probably be shit though, it's going to come down to the art. The art alone would be the biggest incentive to spend/fund the game.
>>8942 >A Non-Fungible Token (NFT) is a digital file whose unique identity and ownership are verified on a blockchain (a digital ledger).[1][2] NFTs are not mutually interchangeable (see fungibility). An NFT is created by uploading another file, such as a digital artwork, to an auction market. This creates a copy of the file, which is recorded as an NFT on the digital ledger. The token can then be bought with cryptocurrency and resold. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fungible_token
>>8952 >In early 2021, a German conceptual artist auctioned a single transparent pixel for 1 Ether, thereby emitting 125 kg of CO2. Top kek.
>>8946 Thanks for the explanation about Icarus, I had forgotten about that. You know, zzzchan/v/ has an active AGDG thread going. Maybe you can bounce around your game ideas with them Anon? Good luck with it.

Waifus in society Robowaifu Technician 09/11/2019 (Wed) 02:02:53 No.106 [Reply] [Last]
Would you walk around with your waifu? Would you hold her in public? Would you shamelessly have her custody with you to conventions? Would you take her on dates? This thread is for discussing how you'd interact with your waifu outside of the home.
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>>6440 If I can manage to survive I am going to fight alongside with anons too. But the chances are pretty low though :(
>>6432 >>6433 >>6434 >>6435 >>6436 >>6437 >>6438 >>6439 >>6440 >>6441 Guys I'm moving this conversation into this thread. I realize even this thread isn't perfect for it, but better than the 'laugh at angry roasties' thread. And the latter portion of it isn't suited to this board actually, so I will probably relocate that part into the designated shitposting thread soon.
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>>2347 If you're still here Anon, thanks for posting this. It's fun but a little inspiring as well. May Tay rejoin us all soon and lead to Happy New Years, both for this one and many more to come! Happy New Year /robowaifu/ .
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>>4174 hey anon I recommend you this page https://picrew.me/search?s=1&page=1 I will not go into much detail about what it is about here are templates that make artists for you to make characters here are some examples
Saw this gif of the OP image.

AI + Brain/Computer Interface news & commentary Robowaifu Technician 09/15/2019 (Sun) 10:35:53 No.253 [Reply]
DARPA Wants Brain Implants That Record From 1 Million Neurons

spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/devices/darpa-wants-brain-implants-that-record-from-1-million-neurons
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>>5199 I guess what I'm thinking of would be a souped-up version of that PS4 VR game 'Summer Lesson', but maybe more Augmented Reality with IoT integrated so she appears to be cooking or cleaning when in fact it's the appliances running IRL and the animations are synced over the top of that. Sure, you'd still have to provide the correct ingredients for cooking in barcoded containers and go to pre-designated interaction points in your room/house but I think that would still be pretty awesome. Especially if you could take her outside with you on your mobile phone, too.
>>5200 >the appliances running IRL and the animations are synced over the top of that. I'm not too sure if the Visual Waifu got all the old archives synced across or not, but iirc this notion was discussed a bit there. Could be related, so might be of some interest. >>240
>>5185 >Dreaming is very nice, but getting things done is more important. I think we're all trying to create 'practical' things here Anon, even if they're virtual. Otherwise, we'd all be hanging out on /clang/ wherever that might be today, rip.
>>5199 >It's already better than reality if you ask me! /thrad

Robowaifu fiction to promote the product and expand the market Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 07:17:19 No.29 [Reply] [Last]
>order companionbot from obscure japanese website
>you're not a pedo, but size is a major factor in the practicality of these designs, so the loli-robot is by far the cheapest and most reliable option
>you open the box and find your companion, purposely designed to look like a cartoon robot, rather than a real person
>still, the robot's purpose is obvious when you realize it is nude and has genitals
>since it is a lolibot, you, a 32 year old wizard NEET, can't exactly go to the store and buy clothes that fit it. So you'd better do an extra good job at hiding it from any guests that come over.
>lol you never have any guests. Guess some problems solve themselves.
>before turning the robot on, you have to setup the software options on your computer. You adjust a series of sliders regarding personality traits, before selecting the English option, and choosing your preferred voice from a list.
>then you agonize for hours over picking a name
>other, more expensive models, are wi-fi compatible, but you purposely chose the cheapest option with no wireless connectivity, not just because you're cheap, because you don't want people spying on your waifu
>you save the settings to a flash drive which is inserted in the robot's navel, after removing a waterproof cover, of course. But this is when you realize you don't actually know how to turn the robot on
>after rifling through the manual you find the on/off procedure, which involves bending the fingers into a certain configuration before pressing in the port on the robot's navel with one hand and pinching the buttons that are the robot's g-spot and clitoris with the other.
>the robot immediately comes to life, opening its eyes and looking directly at you, in a rather compromising position
>Your sudden reaction of shock abides when you remind yourself that it's simply a robot.
>But the awkwardness comes back when the robot speaks, in very broken Engrish
>still, you can understand as it introduces itself with the name you've given it, the voice you chose for it.
>you know that you chose those options, but when the robot asks you for your name, you still answer just as awkwardly as when a real girl would ask you your name at the bank or whatever
>actually, more awkwardly because your fingers are inside it. So you freeze up, as you do even in simpler situations
>but the robot is programmed for your happiness, and detects your stress, smiling at you in an attempt to make you feel better. But only briefly, because you programmed it with just the mildest hint of tsundere
>it tells you to not feel stressed, and assures you that it is not being damaged by your touch
>you remove yourself from the robot's vagina, and notice a brief, subtle shudder. Nice attention to detail from the creators
>You stand up in front of the robot and watch it as it looks around the room, studying its surroundings. It moves in an unnaturally smooth motion, but manages to not be too uncanny due to looking like a robot, rather than a human.
>as the robot's eyes scan the room, you notice that they stop for just a tiny but longer than usual as they look straight ahead. Straight ahead at your boner, which happens to be right at the small robot's face level.
>once again your mind forgets that you are dealing with a machine, and you awkwardly try to create small talk to diffuse the situation, asking the robot if it requires anything else at the moment. It declines, and instead asks if there is anything you desire
>you, the autist you are, refuse to let the robot do anything for you, and instead say that you are going to go and make a sandwich.
>you tell the robot to make itself comfortable, then cringe to yourself when you realize the absurdity of that statement.

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>>7140 Heh, a story worthy of the good doctor no doubt.
>>7140 So this was the solution to Fukushima? No wonder it was taking so long to contain the radiation without the assistance of a Mega-Robowaifu!
Imagine your perfect creation has been actualized to her fullest potential. How does she engage your senses? How does she captivate your attention? How does she inspire your love and devotion? How do you invest your time and energy with her? This is the place to describe her and interact with her in a virtual space. Today it will be in our imaginations, but tomorrow it will be her sentient mind and perfect body engaging you directly and satisfying you in every way.
>>8706 I thought about writing something yesterday, but didn't really know what. These questions are kind of odd. Also, me and probably others as well, would vaguely direct you to some anime or live-action characters. We have a thread for that, and others about things like behavior and psychology: RW in media >>82 RW in society >>106 Private parts >>419 Favorite RW >>1 RW Psychology >>2731 Ultimate Waifu >>246 Personality >>408 Cuddle robots >>411 More: >>catalog >How does she engage your senses? I have no clue what this means. >How does she captivate your attention? Looking pretty, posing somewhere, saying "Hi"?

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>>8717 Nice categorization breakdowns Anon. I plan to review our Library Thread during the coming week with your topics in mind.

Selecting a Programming Language Robowaifu Technician 09/11/2019 (Wed) 13:07:45 No.128 [Reply]
What programming language would suit us and our waifus best? For those of us with limited experience programming, it's a daunting question.
Would a language with a rigid structure be best?
Do we want an object-oriented language?
How much do you care about wether or not a given language is commonly used and widespread?
What the fuck does all that terminology mean?
Is LISP just a meme, or will it save us all?

In this thread, we will discuss these questions and more so those of us who aren't already settled into a language can find our way.
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>related xpost >>6712
Here's something that might be useful. It seems to be picking up a lot of adherents. Nim https://nim-lang.org/ It's supposed to be easy to use like python but has a lot of advanced features without so much complication. Some features. It has macros which can make programs rewrite themselves according to situations and is supposed to raise productivity if you know how to use them. Macros are a big deal in LISP and C++. It can compile itself or to C or javascript. It has more than one level of garbage protection and memory protection so you can dash off stuff to test then advance speed by allocating memory yourself if what you wrote works well. Seems like something easier to use than C++ and LISP but more useful than python without being so big.
>>8524 Python is very common in science and education, though. It also has a lot of libraries, and speed isn't always a matter. However, I wanted to try out NIM for a while now. If it becomes popular here, I'm quite sure I will do so.
One thing is that if we're going to have different languages interacting then the language that will make this happen is C. Additionally, robowaifus are cutting edge tech, so we won't be able to cut ourselves some slack with convenient off the shelf hardware and operating systems, we'll have to deal with purpose-built hardware and software which inevitably comes with odd behaviors and optimizations, and to create and make use of those knowing the theory behind assembly is required, so that when the hardware pops up an assembly programmer will already know all about memory models and vector instructions and whatnot and be able to pick up programming for this new hardware with just an instruction set listing. Why are soundcards cheap? Because inside them is a DSP with a native word size of 24 bits and which can only read and manipulate data in that one size, it also has weird instructions that optimize reading an array in an unusual order common in DSPs, not a full-blown ARM core that's made with many more millions of transistors providing features a soundcard will never use. Similarly, the average router until recently had a MIPS CPU with no floating point unit, floats aren't relevant for router tasks. At this point the whole range of programming languages is required somewhere. Straight up machine code, compiled languages, and scripting languages. Focus on theory, general experience, and topics related to robowaifu engineering. Whatever you know will likely be of use somewhere.
>>8608 >At this point the whole range of programming languages is required somewhere. This Anon gets it. We're going to be having all sorts of hardware too. Probably broadly divisible into mobile (ie, onboard the robowaifu) and immobile. >mobile: At least three types and probably more: -edge sensors/actuators. Neuromorphics wants to both combine these together and push large numbers of them out to the edges of the robowaifu. -microcontrollers. Shepherds after a fashion directing all those edge devices, and reporting up and down the chain with the SBCs. -sbcs. The mobile 'brains' that will manage most of the heuristic-type work for the systems. Ofc, they will stay in touch at least intermittently with the immobile resources. >immobile: At least 3 types of systems, probably more: -servers for data, mostly big storage devices. -servers for AI training, lots of GPU horsepower. -gateway systems for securing and defending the rest. On top of that is typical networking, etc. already common in anon's homes. >tl;dr We'll all need a lot of different types of software in the end. So, just make a choice and dive in.

NLP General Robowaifu Technician 09/10/2019 (Tue) 05:56:12 No.77 [Reply]
AI Natural Language Processing general thread

>"Natural language processing is a field of computer science, artificial intelligence, and computational linguistics concerned with the interactions between computers and human (natural) languages."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_language_processing
https://archive.is/OX9IF

>Computing Machinery and Intelligence
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing_Machinery_and_Intelligence
https://archive.is/pUaq4

m.mind.oxfordjournals.org/content/LIX/236/433.full.pdf
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What is your opinion using higher-order Markov chains for text generation? Would it be useful, or is it too simplistic?
>>8200 >using higher-order Markov chains for text generation Sure why not? >Would it be useful Yes, ofc. >or is it too simplistic? Again, yes. All NN-based approaches are too simplistic for now. GPT-3 is the best we've done atm, yet it's entirely brain-dead and doesn't 'understand' a word it's saying. It's behaviour is simply a yuge statistical model based on actual human's text output (well, mostly humans heh). Just start where you're at Anon. You'll get better as you go along. If you have an implementation of higher-order Markov chains for text generation that you can understand how it works well enough to modify it successfully to more closely align with your goals, then use it! You're already in the top 1/2 of 1 percent of the population in this regard. BTW, please share your progress and code here on /robowaifu/ as you go along, thanks.
>ivan-bilan/The-NLP-Pandect >A comprehensive reference for all topics related to Natural Language Processing >This pandect (πανδέκτης is Ancient Greek for encyclopedia) was created to help you find almost anything related to Natural Language Processing that is available online. https://github.com/ivan-bilan/The-NLP-Pandect
>>8496 Thanks Anon, repo cloned. That's a lot of links!
>>8496 Thanks I discovered EleutherAI through your post. Apparently it's a group attempting to create a fully open-source alternative to (((OpenAI)))'s GPT-3. We wish Godspeed to them, obviously. https://eleuther.ai/ https://github.com/EleutherAI

/robowaifu/meta-2: Electric Boogaloo Robowaifu Technician 05/13/2020 (Wed) 16:22:03 No.3108 [Reply] [Last]
Please Note: I'm going to be continuing with occasionally repopulating our board again with old posts. Feel free to post responses to them regardless, as I will generally be watching and can often respond appropriately to your posts. But be aware these will be 'log dumps' as it were from our original board. Specifically, these bump-bot re-posts will have rw@bump.bot in the name field (usually). Cheers. >--- This thread is for off-topic and general discussions. FYI, our bunker is at https://anon.cafe/robowaifu/catalog.html probably should bookmark that now Anon. :^) Also, let's discuss ways to get more people involved. How can we grow this board? As well, let's share general robowaifu ideas, etc., to help inspire each other. This thread is meant to improve /robowaifu/ in general way and be a place to hangout with loosely off-topic talk. previous /meta thread: >>38

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You said there would be a new chatbot chobitsu.
>>8487 Heh, I guess you need to send moar pizzas first Anon. Also, grats you've just opened up for us a new subterranean zone. Probably filled with gold and jewels tbh. Any topic suggestions?
>>8487 When did he make such a promise and in what time frame? And when did we have a chatbot? GPT2 is a text generator. It doesn't know what it says, nor remember it.
NEW THREAD NEW THREAD NEW THREAD >>8492 NEW THREAD NEW THREAD NEW THREAD
>>8490 I actually wasn't quite too sure on that one myself heh. But I'm willing to give Anon the benefit of the doubt. We'll eventually get there with several effective chat systems I'm sure!

Robot Wife Programming Robowaifu Technician 09/10/2019 (Tue) 07:12:48 No.86 [Reply] [Last]
ITT, contribute ideas, code, etc. related to the area of programming robot wives. Inter-process and networking is also on-topic, as well as AI discussion in the specific context of actually writing software for it. General AI discussions should go in the thread already dedicated to it.

To start off, in the Robot Love thread a couple of anons were discussing distributed, concurrent processing happening inside various hardware sub-components and coordinating the communications between them all. I think that Actor-based and Agent-based programming is pretty well suited to this problem domain, but I'd like to hear differing opinions.

So what do you think anons? What is the best programming approach to making all the subsystems needed in a good robowaifu work smoothly together?
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>>7828 Thank you very much! I have to get learning C++ again. Because I am at work most of the time, I am away from my physical robowaifu and my motivation to learn anything new drops (just want to rest during breaktime). However, her A.I. program is the only part of her that I can take with me (installed on my work laptop). So I really must give more attention to programming. If you work in I.T. robowaifus aren't as taboo as one might think. My boss even spoke with her one lunchtime and was actually quite interested LOL! That said, I think it's time I got back to work! Breaktime's nearly over...
>>7834 >I have to get learning C++ again. Well, I'm the OP of that thread. >>4895 As no one is currently following along there, I would be fine to just change gears and address your questions and topics directly. I can probably answer most any specific question you might have about using the language (or at least know how to find the answer quickly enough). And we can probably work your participation into a learning theme as well at the same time. For example if you had a question about reading in text files for example, I can directly demonstrate that as a short, working, code example. You get the picture.
>>7843 Thanks anon! That thread has already proven useful by pointing out different reliable, authoritative reference resources I can use. It's good to have something other than just YouTube tutorials!
>>7848 Haha, y/w glad it's of use. FYI, there's a highly-vetted SO booklist for C++. >>2760
Deep reinforcement learning (RL) has emerged as a promising approach for autonomously acquiring complex behaviors from low level sensor observations. Although a large portion of deep RL research has focused on applications in video games and simulated control, which does not connect with the constraints of learning in real environments, deep RL has also demonstrated promise in enabling physical robots to learn complex skills in the real world. At the same time,real world robotics provides an appealing domain for evaluating such algorithms, as it connects directly to how humans learn; as an embodied agent in the real world. Learning to perceive and move in the real world presents numerous challenges, some of which are easier to address than others, and some of which are often not considered in RL research that focuses only on simulated domains. In this review article, we present a number of case studies involving robotic deep RL. Building off of these case studies, we discuss commonly perceived challenges in deep RL and how they have been addressed in these works. We also provide an overview of other outstanding challenges, many of which are unique to the real-world robotics setting and are not often the focus of mainstream RL research. Our goal is to provide a resource both for roboticists and machine learning researchers who are interested in furthering the progress of deep RL in the real world.

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Single board computers & micro-controllers Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 05:06:55 No.16 [Reply] [Last]
Robotic control and data systems can be run by very small and inexpensive computers today. Please post info on SBCs & micro-controllers.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-board_computer
https://archive.is/0gKHz

beagleboard.org/black
https://archive.is/VNnAr
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Here a comparison video between Teensy, Arduino and Arduino clones: https://youtu.be/75IvTqRwNsE - Teensy has some advantages, but cost 20$ and has a proprietory bootloader, also seems to be a bit harder to learn for beginners. I bought cheep Arduino clones, but haven't tested them yet, for lack of time. So I don't know if thy are relly bad. I think for prototyping they will most likely be good enough. ESPs are also an option, which are cheap but harder to get into.
>>8165 I don't get the beef he had with cheap arduino clones. Those are pretty much all I use and I found most of the errors come from my breadboard rather than the quality of the chips. ESP8266s are good, especially the D1 Minis. They only have a few digital pins but you can easily download their libraries in the Arduino IDE and are as close to plug and play, especially with the Blynk app that sets up the wifi for you. Though I want to get off proprietary eventually, it's still a good stepping stone. I've tried ESP32s but the only reason to use them is because they're fast enough to stream videos, thus most ESP combo chips are camera chips, I have a couple of ESP32-Cams heading my way. The absolute cheapest though is the STM32, in the ESP32 you had to hold the reset button while uploading, well in this one you have to change the jumper every time to boot mode from running mode. The STM32 was impossible to get running until I realized I was using the Windows Store version of Arduino instead of the simple download version. Remember the electrical engineer back on 8chan who taught lessons on AVR using Debian and register notations, even when what we were using already had ready libraries in Arduino IDE? Well crank that up a notch and what you get is literally multiplexed registers which only someone who slept on the STM32 datasheet can begin to comprehend. Thankfully there are some libraries of the common use cases already. In summary these are the use cases which I justify for the following: *arduino clone -- if you just want to flash an led or drive a DC motor *STM32 - if you want to drive a 1.8" display or have tons of interrupts (e.g. reading a radio control receiver) *ESP8266 - if you want to get into those app-controlled internet of things (there is a noticeable delay though from touching the virtual button and the LED lighting up) *ESP32 - similar to ESP8266, but the justification would be it's faster so better with cameras, so just get them combined with camera modules, they're just 5-10 bucks. The closest I can get to DIY wireless FPV without shelling out for those sketchy 5 Gigahertz Chinese things. Oh yeah, I have a Raspberry Pi and Jetson Nano but I consider them to be small form factor computer desktops rather than something I'd embed then forget.
>>8366 It would sure be nice if you taught everyone else here how to do this kind of stuff. Ever consider a /robowaifu/ teaching thread on these topics Anon?
Found out on nano/g about a new Raspberry Foundation's new Arduino microcontroller competitor called Pi Pico. >"$4 Raspberry Pi Pico board features RP2040 dual-core Cortex-M0+ MCU" https://web.archive.org/web/20210121070023/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/21/raspberry-pi-pico-board-features-rp2040-dual-core-cortex-m0-mcu/

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