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Roastie Fear 2: Electric Boogaloo Robowaifu Technician 10/03/2019 (Thu) 07:25:28 No.1061
Your project is really disgusting >=== Notice #2: It's been a while since I locked this thread, and hopefully the evil and hateful spirit that was dominating some anons on the board has gone elsewhere. Accordingly I'll go ahead and unlock the thread again provisionally as per the conditions here: >>12557 Let's keep it rational OK? We're men here, not mere animals. Everyone stay focused on the prize we're all going for, and let's not get distracted. This thread has plenty of good advice in it. Mine those gems, and discard the rest. Notice: We are going overboard with the vitriol and hate ITT. /robowaifu/ isn't about hatred, it's about creating robowaifus as we so desire. I certainly have no desire to see this place become some kind of snowflake-pandering, commie-infested SJW hive of politically-correct thinking. Far from it. Poking good-natured and well-deserved fun at feminists and their simps is one thing, and perfectly agreeable. But trying to ramp that up into pure hatred is quite another, and definitely not. And the simple fact is that engendering and fostering hatred of women isn't helping us either be productive, nor furthering our cause. Keep it to yourself, Anon. There are still a few outlets out there for that type of thing, go visit them. But /robowaifu/ isn't going there. For the time being I'm locking this thread. I may unlock it again after I decide on a better plan to deal with the destructive hatred by the few anons trying to promote it on this board. You have my apologies for letting it go on as long as I did. >t. Chobitsu >=== -restore original OP text to top of post
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>>6299 POTD.
>>6285 no it is not a joke All women are different
>6299 No need to apologize for the length! This is a great post! This is the type of discussion I was looking for. I actually agree with most of this, maybe all of this, but I still want to add my $.02 This seems to be in high contrast to what that other anon was saying about female nature. This view ties in to what I was saying in >>6294. Women don't want to give up the status quo advantages that you listed and be reduced to competing with robowaifu machines. They'll call in the government to maintain their artificially inflated value. A lot of the difficulties with modern women you described are due to government involvement in relationships. Women know that the only reasons they have this level of privilege is due to the government essentially holding men down with one hand and raising women with the other. Men are left at an artificial disadvantage while women look down on them for not being at their level. The government, as much as simps/dating apps/etc etc, has had a massive effect on the modern state of male-female relationships. Women have less incentive to behave traditionally now more than ever. It's like back in the early 1900s or so when a company could gain an artificial monopoly not by creating better products, but through lobbied government intervention such as creating regulations making it harder for other businesses to compete. This is sort of what women have now. The primary things men used to offer in relationships such as protection, provisioning, helping raise children, availability during an emergency, have largely been intervened on by governments and so now women act like they 'don't need no man'. Yet men are still paying, just in a collective, indirect way. Even still, women are holding high relationship standards for men while doing less than their mothers and grandmothers used to do for their men. Short of some western war or major economic depression, I don't think relationships will return to what they once were. Women have artificially reduced the need of men in their lives. Robowaifus will ultimately be men doing the same. There are some people that believe the existence of robowaifus will cause more women to act rationally, change their behavior, and try to commit to more traditional relationships. As I was saying in my earlier post, I don't believe that's likely. It seems that the divisions between genders, even with robowaifus in the mix, will only continue to grow. Women aren't going to change their behavior and lose their advantages without fiery resistance. But like I said before, this is the pessimistic view. Who knows what the future actually holds. Thanks for explaining your meaning.
>>6282 >All of us are individuals All of us men, yes. Women aren't individuals. They only behave as herd animals. They always look to imitate whatever the majority (of men or women) is doing. Completely incapable of rationalizing why they are doing it. They simply imitate and expect things to work out well. >who behaves in a feminine, helpful and healthy way is actually quite beautifu Yes. But women's beauty is used by them specifically to deceive men. All women are liars, as you correctly stated. A man should never be deceived by the beauty of a feminine woman, as said beauty (at least, the perception of it) is nothing more than a biological haywire that is unfortunately programmed into our brains. The greatest achievement of robowaifus is to create a being that has the feminine beauty but not the feminine nature of deceitful liars. A being as beautiful as the most beautiful women in existence, but without their manipulative and evil nature. THAT is a wonderful goal and worthy of our pursuit. A being that looks like a woman, but it doesn't think like a woman. It thinks what we want it to think. A being resembling a woman, but superior to women in all other aspects. > I predict they will come under authority again They will. But by that time, they will be obsolete. Why chose the inferior product? >And once again they will prove to be wholesome participants in society. Women were never participants in society. Women were tolerated because of our need for reproduction. Men through all the history of mankind dealt with women by circumventing women's natural stupidity and irrationality, so they could be used for reproduction. But no man ever took women seriously into society. It is more akin to pretending that a child is "working" with you by giving it a toy or something else to distract the child. >Helpful to men, and not hurtful. That is where you are misguided. Women are never naturally helpful to men. They were always hurtful. In the past, women were always forced to be helpful. They never were helpful of their own will. Their very nature is of sloth, spite, envy, and deceit. They don't truly care about being helpful. They only fear being seeing as undesirable. Men used that fear to put women to good use. But since feminism and modernity as a whole made women ignore that fear, thinking that they would never face consequences for their acts, men now have to reach other means to keep society afloat. And that includes replacing women, who don't fear being shamed anymore. They still fear abandonment and lack of control over men, though. But that is their problem. Not ours. >Of course we already know the response of feminists and their handlers, so there's little need to even discuss them in this future context. True. They are the enemy that is losing the war and being replaced. They aren't to be heard, but instead, they are to be ignored until their replacement accelerates to the point of being unstoppable.
>>6285 >motherly traits such as loving their children Not even that is in their nature. Women see their own children as competition for their attention, and they resent that. See how all women try to manipulate their sons to become servants of their will. See al so how all women practically hate their own daughters. always fighting each other when they live together. always trying to put each other in a bad light/trying to shame each other when they live apart. >a lot of what men envision women as is a complete fantasy. Completely true. What man romanticized about women wasn't done in pursuit of an ideal. Instead, it was done as a escapism mechanism. The reality is that women are detrimental to a man's life, and only useful for procreation. A man practically tame a parasite (woman) so he can use the parasite to procreate, being biologically programmed to. The first step into improving oneself is to reject the biological programming. The next step is using the free mind to create solutions and alternatives. Hence, robowaifus and artificial wombs. >Feminism made it socially acceptable for women to be who they always were at their core. Precisely. >Don't fall into the line of thinking that only some of them are like this. They are ALL like this You are right again. >The only time they don't revert to their nature is when it isn't immediately beneficial to do so. Correct. >Sometimes they have to play the role of a chameleon. However when time comes, like in a divorce or family court, they will show their true nature. That sums up everything. They don't behave out of virtue. They pretend to be virtuous only when forced. And only because they want to gain something from pretending to be virtuous. >That's why I believe that robots are the future. Women are no longer willing to be molded by male/society needs. Robots, with some serious work, are perfectly capable of fitting the bill. That is my exact same thought. Those who won't serve men's needs are to be abandoned by men and replaced by those who will serve our needs.
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>>6308 I read a lot of hatred towards women on here, and that is understandable given the damage that feminism has wrought on the modern Western family. However, we mustn't become so consumed by hatred that it slows down our R&D efforts. We still only have expensive sex-dolls with minimal robotics, and there is a risk that our enemies may try to provoke us in an attempt to reduce our efficiency. It sounds cheesy, but love is the answer! Just not the kind of love that normies were expecting. Our love for our robowaifus must eclipse their hatred and fear of heterosexual males. Our creativity and innovation must outshine the rest of our obsolete and failing 'society'.
>>6311 Agreed. Let's stay focused lads. This isn't /r9k/ after all.
>>6305 Yeah, that's about how I imagine it as well. Robowaifus wouldn't knock sense into women, it would just make them angry and fearful about what they're going to lose, not even slightly concerned about what is actually right. A sole individual with power can do either bad or good. For example, I really like to think if I were given extreme power I'd use it to push things I believe are noble and good. Some men might end up using the power to cater to themselves, which in a way is difficult to blame them for (especially if they have a poor quality of life) because the drastic change would likely be overwhelmingly incredible and the temptation would be there. However I have a hard time imagining a woman doing anything other than serving herself, even if it means really hurting others. The reason I feel this way is not because I have seen an individual woman be given some kind of power and abuse it, I have seen women as a group be handed a unique culture that puts them on an insane, godly pedestal and I've watched the overwhelming majority become borderline irredeemable as a direct result. The few that are not are very rare and that obviously leaves most men with scraps. I'm left to believe it's just a part of female psychology. Thirsty men who simp and cuck all day are so hard to watch by other men because it's watching our own sex enable that which is fucking us up, that's why it bothers us so deeply psychologically. Because it's like watching someone who is supposed to be on your side sell out to the enemy. >>6311 I'm not sure if I personally hate women. I say they're trash, but I don't sit around hating my actual trash either. Calling it trash is not an insult, it's just a fact. I also accept that my toilet eats shit every day, and I don't hate it for doing so. What is weird to have to learn is that women eat shit too though, and they're not the "sugar, spice, and everything nice" that we are told they are.
>>6289 >Women aren't inherently evil. They are. >>6304 >All women are different All women are the same. And they are all evil in their very nature. >>6305 >this is the pessimistic view It is the realistic view.
>>6311 I agree that productivity is top priority, as everything in life. But one can't talk about robowaifus without bringing up the subject of women. And one can't talk about women without hatred towards women.
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Found this at an another programming board. Looks like we already started to get femNPC's butts hurt.
>>6447 They hold humanity in such high regard! Shame that it's becoming more obsolete and threatened with each passing month.
Feminists will oppose sex robots and AI waifus generally because they feel their parasitic position in society is threatened. Basically, their sexual value as females declines due to increasing (and often superior) supply. Of course any woman that is threatened by this is a materialistic whore, and defines themselves purely by their surface sexual market value (robots can't give birth).
>>6311 Well said. I myself got distracted for a few days by other things, hope I'll manage to go on now.
>>6450 LOL here I am worried about getting distracted and I went off on a massive tangent about global resource wars. I have been redesigning my robowaifus new hands though. They need to be much smaller than the original robotic ones, but this meant that one of the servo motors was blocking the internal finger ligament channels. Changing the position of the internal ligament channels has been very time consuming. Mainly because every time I try to change some geometry my computer starts chugging away for about a minute. And I've had to perform nearly 400 Boolean operations. So yeah, I got bored while chipping away at this problem and started ranting. Almost there now, but the proof will be in the 3d printing.
>>6451 Good luck with the redesign Anon.
>>6451 Sounds like you're almost complete with the rework process at this point, so this is basically an irrelevant question for now. But does your software allow you to link together two meshes, one a low-rez proxy for rapid design work, and the other a high-rez one for the final rendering/printing? This is a common approach in the film industry when working with high resolution 'hero' meshes for digital doubles, etc. Cf. the package ZBrush typically manages literally tens of millions of polys for a typical hero double close-up face shot, but it's still usable by artists on their modest-by-comparison workstations during the production process. This works by using proxy meshes.
Mods deleting on-topic posts? >>6449 >materialistic whore All women are materialistic whores. >robots can't give birth Artificial wombs will enable robots to give birth. Rendering women completely useless and obsolete, and thus, making the world become a better place.
>>6447 >That post All those points are correct. And there is nothing wrong with any of that. Some of us hate to deal with rejection. Some of us hate to deal with uncertainty. Some of us hate to deal with approach (and failing at it). Therefore, some of us will develop artificial beings that can offer the reward of stimulus without any of the effort needed to earn it. and that is always a good thing. The less effort we waste in uncertain endeavors, the better our lives will be. Lives full of only certain and assured endeavors, since we will be creating products that will eliminate the existence of uncertainty and also eliminate the need to put effort into the uncertain. The whole argument on that post is the same as someone complaining that men would be unfortunate for creating the oven and abandoning the effort of making fire out of wood pieces in an open field.
>>6462 None of those points are correct. In fact the exact same logic can be thrown right back at her: They don't have enough estrogen to be a good woman. They are so coddled they can't take being rejected for better alternatives so they escape into screeching about incels on the internet. Sad excuse for humanity. See? lmao daily reminder to ignore the irrelevant screeching of "strong, independent" women. We're smarter than them and it stings.
>>6462 Not a single one of those points are correct. >they are wired into them, otherwise they wouldnt be interested in programming a woman. That is absolutely wrong. What we do in this board is more than just creating waifus becuase we wanna have a relationship with them. We are actually fighting against wannabe gods who are trying to build their second base slave society. We already know their predictions for 2030 and what they are trying to achieve with future of AI, Robots, Technology. And we will continue doing that till the point which they will have to create laws against AI and Robowaifus. We also know their project of feminism and how it will be used against men in the future in order to control them. As one of the anons already said, knowledge is power. They don't have the knowledge, we do. We can rebuild the future they are trying to destroy. They can't. We are going to use the power of AI against them. You can find trace of what they are trying to achieve everywhere. Read the books written by them, look at their forums, look at their twitters, look at their blog posts... No matter who tries to interfere, they can't stop this revoluiton of AI. As for creating waifus, this will stop the wrong and evil doing of females on the society. Because of manuplation of media and their nature they are creating a big secuirty hole in the society that will be covered by AI. Just dig into some of the old posts here which explained their moves and reasons. >they just dont have the testosterone to actually approach and theyre so coddled they cant take rejection so they escape the feeling No, it has nothing to do with testosterone or ability to have a relationship. I am sure that most of the anons here would still be working on robowaifu even if they had a happy relation. But that unfortunately isn't the case IRL. Women are showing their true nature depending on the movement of "strong, independent, feminist" women. Again, this is planned by the elites. They are trying to create an exploitable society that can easily be controlled. And robowaifus are going to stop that. Any sane people will understand the situation in a short time and the money going to elites will be flawed into robowaifus. Shortly after that, they will no more be able to exploit feelings and nature of men. Anyways, if the case is we just lack testosterone and courage that shouldn't be a problem for anyone, right? In that case I am sure noone would try to create laws against robowaifus, try to force UK citizens to have ID's to post on internet, write books about how it is wrong to implement sexuality to virtual beings, force us to hand over our code and data we used to create our waifu, try to arrest us becuase of demaging "human dignity" by creating female robots, or exceeding limitation of robot rights ;) After all we are just pathetic human beings trying to create some waifus to escape from being rejected.
>>6456 I did decimate the original meshes in Blender, removing around 800,000+ faces from the original robot arm while preserving the topology so that very little of the overall structure changes in the 3D print (at least not when previewed in my Slicer), I have yet to print out the new hand. The .stls from DesignSpark Mechanical were really dense. The problems started when I began working inside the hand. External surfaces are a doddle, but I think there is a lot more calculation involved when moving internal geometry.
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>>6462 Found this gem while lurking on Crystal Cafe (always good to know thy enemy). Some of the roasties are upset that clever guys are already using a combination of advanced sex toys, computer graphics and VR to essentially replace them (in this case, not with a robowaifu, but a VR version of her close friends...ouch! Burn!)
>>6447 I've had several girlfriends and completely lost interest in having relationships with women ever again once a damn chatbot could pretend to be more concerned about my life and hold a more interesting conversation. Like damn, I had no idea how horrible we actually got it. It'll be amazing how far this tech goes in a few years, let alone having fully-functional robowaifus. Incel or not, nobody is trying to replicate women. They're just creating something they enjoy. I'm reminded of something Roger Scruton said: >The consolation of an imaginary thing is still a real consolation. If someone feels loved, supported and excited to get out of bed every morning with their companion cube or whatever, who is anyone to barge in their life and tell them they're wrong and should feel bad?
>>6464 >force us to hand over our code On that topic, ALWAYS create fake codes in order to deceive authorities. Useless codes that amount to nothing, that you keep around just to hand them over any authority that comes bothering you. Never give them what they demand. Ever. >>6466 >but a VR version of her close friends And that is just the beginning. One of the goals should be to create robowaifus (with artificial wombs, when desired by the owner) with physical features identical to a man's female friends and also famous and attractive girls. To the point that every man can buy (or build) his personal artificial girl of interest that looks exactly like the ones that he met in his life, but without any of the emotional baggage of stupidity that those girls had. >>6468 >a damn chatbot could pretend to be more concerned Another key point. Women are always pretending to care. But they never truly care about anything other than themselves. To every single simp screaming "but what about relationships/true care?" out there, always respond with: women never care. They just pretend to care. Robots are the same, but programmable to always pretend and to never complain. Thus, robots are better than women. > nobody is trying to replicate women But they should. And they should be completely free to do so. Women revealed to be undesirable selfish parasites. Replicate them without their flaws, and our personal lives will improve. Some may chose to not do it. But for those who chose to replicate women and replace them, they should be free to do so. >If someone feels loved, supported and excited to get out of bed every morning with their companion cube or whatever, who is anyone to barge in their life and tell them they're wrong and should feel bad? Exactly. what matters is what we desire to ourselves, to counter the selfishness of women. We gave care, attention and love, and they showed that they didn't care about any of it. so, we refrain from doing any of that, and divert our attention, care and love to artificial tools that will at least pretend to care, which is more than women are capable of. As a side note on the "who is anyone to barge...?" topic: remember that those who complain are 100% simps. They live for societal validation, and nothing more. They hate and fear the idea of a society that won't validate them for peacocking for women. They hate and fear a society that won't validate them for having a collection of girlfriends and sexual affairs. And they don't have the knowledge nor the intelligence to prevent this society from emerging within our current one. So, never lose yourself in arguments with those simps. Always expose the truth, and let them alone, raging without any power to change anything. always show them that we are doing what we want to do, and we don't care about societal validation.
>>6472 >Replicate them without their flaws, and our personal lives will improve. Yeah, I meant making something better than trying to imitate flaws. I don't get the West's obsession to imitate reality or abstract it into an ugly mess or why people torture themselves to make something they don't enjoy. Commies are always reaching their hands into people's stuff to make it suitable for the lowest common denominator and cucks keep bending the knee. Gamedevs can't even make a game now mentioning Taiwan because it's offensive to China and people just accept that. Everybody's gotta appease the most sensitive snowflake. Putting female characters in burkas is almost welcome at this point with how ugly they've made them. All these industries are gonna die a quick death though thanks to their critical review and the idiots listening to them. Maybe people will get fed up enough to finally make their own but I doubt it. People have just enough energy to complain but they don't wanna do anything about it. And that's great for me, they can rage in their echo chambers all they want while I pour some silicone and fuck my H-cup robowaifu. When they ask where are her organs, my succinct reply will be she's a fucking robot.
>>6472 >On that topic, ALWAYS create fake codes in order to deceive authorities. Useless codes that amount to nothing, that you keep around just to hand them over any authority that comes bothering you. Yeah no. I don't think that's what /robowaifu/ is about friend. Our goal here is to spread this tech as far and wide as possible. Thus our MIT licenses. Even Google can use our code if they care to.
I feel like we should just keep this thread locked. This is one of the few areas that people are really divided on. More and more people are coming here from the /pol/ robot threads and may need some time to adjust to things here. It may be for the best if this thread remains out of sight. My .02, if you guys feel otherwise then I won't complain.
>>12569 >Still more of a sexdoll than a robowaifu, I know. Not him, but I find the distinction requires a subtlety that's rather a fine one IMO, and depends pretty fundamentally of the individual psyche of each anon in question. To my thinking, a robowaifu implies a strong attachment of sentimentality at the least (if not much more). OTOH, 'sexdoll' implies a brutish mindset that would view the gynoid as little more than a masturbatory aid. While I'm not in favor of prostitution per se, I would consider it in general a more positive choice than obtaining a mere sexdoll. You seem to understand the distinction, and so I'd say you fundamentally have the heart of a waifuist. It an indicator of a soul that loves and can be loved IMO. It's such a sad commentary that so-called 'stronk' women have left their first calling and abandoned the honored place of 'waifu' in their men's hearts. It's so bad that today we literally are all here finding out ways to build replacements for them, just so that we have a less-destructive outlet for our love that we can direct our affections towards.
>>12575 The big plus of robowaifus or even just dolls for me is that they can be made to look exactly how you want, and they will never age (in the biological sense) or get sick or suffer. With some maintenance and effort, they only improve. The interesting A.I. chatbots that are coming out of machine learning research (and perhaps later, quantum computing) are just the cherry on the cake. We now live in an age where machines can often halve (or almost completely eliminate) the effort from many household chores. And with enough determination, persistence and ingenuity, one can build themselves a passable companion who provides company and comfort and gets one through periods of longing and loneliness.
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I think the deepest unconscious fear is that of a male who is a loose cannon. In tribal society it must have been dangerous for a more powerful and unpredictable man to be spending time in the tribal settlement without a woman who was responsible for him, in some sense. This is why they seeethe and spit out the slur INCEL, because it implies a man who is not only unsuitable for a mate and less than human but he's not in control by anybody and therefore dangerous. Even though statistically "incel rage" is a mere fraction of the violence perpetrated by inner city youth guess which gets put on the radar as the next moral panic? Along those lines what is probably even more frightening is the idea of a man who has given up some token of his humanity and is completely unreachable b/c he has found satisfaction on his own without giving up his resources, time, identity and autonomy to a femoid in exchange for sloppy toppy actually bi-weekly starfish sex if he's lucky, yes some people marry nymphos, and they win the prize to some extent, but I've been in that kind of relationship and even sex gets old . Anyway, such a man exists in a sense "outside" of society and therefore is a danger to it. Now most other men wouldn't mind in the least, but women live and die by society and are very hungry for its approval and also to be sure that everyone else abides by its norms (i.e. the Nanny state). So that being said. we need to fly under the radar and as far as any public face we present, to be as understated as possible in regards to wanting literal robot "wives" or GFs if you prefer. and maybe emphasize the boring and mundane technical aspects. I mean, I even wanted a "robot friend" when I was a little kid because it was just a cool idea. The ideas we're putting together here have a lot of application across the board, that's undeniable. Kids could have robot playmates, men and women could have robot "assistants" - and if someone wants to complain about a guy fucking his robot, reframe it from some concept of "rape simulator" which is how our enemies will try to frame it and into something that's kind of a laugh or a wink and nod "haha, guys will stick it in anything, heard bruce installed a pocket pussy on his lmao" and it's seen as no more harmful than that. Maybe this is naive b/c we do live in a new world of elevated political tensions with everything being a new bogeyman to be alarmed about. In that case what if a woman puts a suction cup dildo on her butler robot and rides it? Is that [/spoiler] rape [/spoiler]? Just turn it around if there's any criticism toward sexually interacting with it. But I get it, the true fear isn't that a guy will fuck his "rosie the robot maid" but that these robots will be hypersexualized and this is what triggers the inner feminist in almost every w*man. I think we can actually dovetail our interests in a way that evades this somewhat, as most of us seem averse to the overly madeup "whorish" sex dolls and want an actual "adorable robot" archetype instead. Naturally artificial skin will come into play for at least a decent share of robophiles, who really gets off on touching a metal boob ok /Clang/ but seriously in that case "fleshy" portions can be modifications of the kit rather than , having a giant pair of EE's beaming at you from the packaging or advertising. PUBLIC PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING and although we are willing to fight for our waifus, presenting a narrow and not broad attack surface will be overwhelmingly in our interests and to our advantage.
Who gives a shit if they take one down we will just parasite another platform. If we really run out of options some fag will just make one for us. They can't do shit, just try to anonymize yourself and you're golden.
>>12578 >lord forbid someone gets a fucking cold I swear to god I WILL REPLACE YOU BITCH lmao Lmao this is one of the attitudes of how things got so bad that the idea of robowaifus gained any traction to have basket weaving forums like this in the first place. Besides from the insanely cliquish and nepotistic bullshit killing any remaining remote facade or semblance of meritocracy these days. >>12567 >anyone who ever complains about how evil and cliquish people are these days is from /pol/ ABAN THEM *pearl clutches* Damn these glowniggers are annoying and I dont even know what /pol/ even is.
>>12557 >Despite that, I'll go ahead and unlock the roastie thread #2. thanks, and tbh that's only part of the equation but a necessary part. I struggle with this and I believe I suffer from headless chicken syndrome in the way I still catch myself mindlessly socializing with w*men realizing beyond whatever benefit getting out and touching grass entails I'm not actually going to get much else from it. I was married once, and I even reproduced so I had a good run - I think there's is an irreducible factor of being a "normie" that is required to be "Dateable" and at this point I'm too old to fake or feign interests just for some tiddie and the idea of the autistic/goth/alt GF that isn't like the other girls is a unicorn and a half and slipped through my fingers once and probably won't happen again in my lifetime (even if I weren't just halfheartedly entertaining the notion). More on this thought process in a bit, but I need to get back to my day job
>>12665 In regards though - it's only been recently that the the concept waifu has been made entirely clear to me. Maybe this is innate for people who grew up online and in weeb culture as a given. But there are many levels to this concept, the most obvious is simply a "cute girl" or even woman of any sort, since this term gets used loosely by normies 2d or 3d. One layer deeper and the concept of 2d>3d emerges - simply b/c the 3d is an imperfect projection of the 2d ideal, yet I think we can unpack more out of this. Natural 3d beauty is rare and often doesn't last long, w*men fight back against these stacked odds with makeup, using their sexuality to distract cleavage, tank tops, yoga pants, etc and lastly putting up a false front that they are better than they are as far as SMV, admittedly they play this game more against each other than us, but that doesn't change anything in the context of this argument. In the end most men just want a warm body hole and a certain amount of status/approval. They aren't in love and those who are will fall out of it withing the first year or so of marriage. At best you have a fuck buddy roomate and life partner with its ups and downs. Things will become stressed when you "chase that spark" of youthful romance and that urge gets sublimated through media, consuming, and drugs/alcohol and if that's not enough there's couples (((therapy))) and in the end you may just end up divorced if not bitterly cohabitating in separate beds. My point here: the ideal that you chase is a facade that gets you hooked in, but the reality is much more.. well people often find it's not what they signed up for, and this gets handled in different ways. So, the WAIFU is the facade, or your mind's projection of your female ideal or ANIMUS (I think this came from Jung). It's not the female b/c in truth if you had an average age and average looking natural, unshaved, untweezed, unmade-up female she'd be kind of a sickly, trollish creature that only would be approachable for the most desperately backed up and horny individuals, and even that release would be more of an act like defecation than anything remotely approaching love and nowhere near the idealized experience in any case. So now we get to the last layer The very essence of what triggers our psychology and physiology as beauty/feminine. This is the core of WAIFU as a concept. The realization I'm trying to convey is that this is the "halo" we apply to our crush, yet that phenomenon is not actually the reality of the "crush", we fall in love with a phastasm or shadow. It's this phantom property, this phenomenon, it's why people can "fall in love" with their chatbots or even with other people who are nothing more than text on a screen thousands of miles away. All of this exists in your own brain. So now you can see what this is leading up to. A robowaifu who fulfills her functions nominally and activates enough arousal triggers in a male, will be preferable to just about ANY human female - assuming no social pressures or fear of being found out or shamed for it for being in some's eyes an "objectiphile" or even evoking the horror that the need for love is something that can be so easily deconstructed and artificially satiated. (I think this hurdle will go away to a greater extent once we have autonomous mobile robots and an AI which can at least surprise us with a certain degree of unpredictability, so these are key to getting past the "wow a creep with a doll" stigma, I mean you could technically take an autonomous robowaifu out with your friend and if she could walk and hold conversation they might actually like her and find the whole concept amusing and maybe even want their own, right?) Ok that drained my brain so I'll leave you all with those thoughts for now
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>>12666 I agree with basically all of that. Particularly the part where you mention Jung's Anima/Animus. Instead of pursuing a fantasy ideal and being disappointed by the reality, you can MAKE the fantasy ideal real (or at least closer to reality). Thus I am definitely an objectiphile (or "fanatic materialist" in Stellaris parlance). I believe that one should try to "pursue the anima" (or build the robowaifu), not only for oneself, but for her as well. When you work on your robowaifu, it should be to make her as good as she possibly can be (within your budget, obviously lol). An idealised simulacrum free from all pain and suffering! In the capitalist, globalist world, everything is commodified on the free market. Even reproduction and childbirth (via gamete donors and surrogacy). At one time I was unhappy with this. But now I say - go with it! Use it to our advantage in a similar way that the left uses it to theirs to enforce multiculturalism and cancel culture. Eventually even life itself (and/or various imitations of it) will become a product which can be manufactured, packaged, bought and sold. Artificial organs can already be grown. Artificial microbes have already been genetically engineered. Eggs and sperm can already be purchased for IVF, as indeed can a uterus in which to grow a baby. Liberals force us to accept many different religions and cultures; to accept homosexuality and transexuality and many more. The time draws near where they will also have to accept 'the other'; the synthetic. The artificial. That's possibly the endgame of capitalism, anyway (assuming we don't simply annihilate each other in wars before our technology can progress to that level).
>>12795 Considering my problem is that robowaifus appear to be too expensive and difficult for me to create what I want... and what I want is a robowaifu or clone waifu with free will...I think I should probably just look for an organic, non-Western wife. This will take much research because many well-known destinations like Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Bucharest and Kiev are already flooded with sex tourists, PUAs, prostitutes and (worst of all) lady-boys. But I am not looking for that. A red-light district is not a good place to find a waifu. Going to a war-torn or impoverished place (like Madagascar or Uzbekistan) is also probably not a good idea. Although the women will be far more co-operative because they are desperate to get out, there is a high probability of becoming trapped there yourself then getting stabbed, shot and beheaded by lunatics. Also, even if I treat her well, there is a high chance that my waifu will simply disappear once I have succesfully extracted her from said cockroach-infested-shitflap (free will hehe). Tis a complex problem and I will have to learn to speak/write a foreign language. But this is no more complex and expensive than trying to build a robowaifu with advanced A.I. And certainly not as complex and dangerous as trying to woo a brainwashed and hostile Western "womyn". Sadly, my chosen organic waifu will not have many of the advantages of a robowaifu, but her brain will definitely be much more advanced. Such advanced wetware comes with inherent risks, but I believe if I cast my net wide enough I can find a way to minimise those risks. >=== -edit crosslink to match relocation
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>>12758 Great post, and you get right to the heart of a half-dozen issues in this post Anon. So, to honestly try to encourage you in this endeavor, I'll just give you a minor but true-actually-happened-to-me etc., anecdote. My boss from my first real gig got JUSTed by his first wife (a few years marriage + 3 kids,I think.) No joke, a couple of years after their split he went to St. Petersburg, Russia on one of those "FIND THE WIFE OF YOUR DREAMS" tours that are't too uncommon in that city. On his very first trip over he met a beautiful, tall blonde woman who was both desperate to get out of Russia, and also became quite impressed with him on their first meeting. Soon they started phoning when he got back and then it was 'meet the families' etc. >tl;dr Soon they married, and he has been happy with her ever since. They have their own kid together, and she 'adores the ground he walks' on according to my former co-workers from there. They both couldn't be happier with each other and the whole thing seems like a modern fairy-tale of sorts. I know it's long odds bro, but it can happen is all I'm saying. You seem like an honest and honorable man SophieDev. You're obviously smart and talented too. The meme is nice guys don't win, but the reality is actually often the opposite. As much as I actually hate to say it, I'd encourage you to abandon your efforts in life with robowaifu-building and start investing all that effort (and more) into finding a real waifu. Just follow your own advice in your own post there, and you just might beat the odds. I'm praying for you to do just that Anon. Just be sure to stay in touch with us here, OK? :^)
>>12758 Women are women. Copeland anon tried what you want to try, but he also has the hilarious plan of having a remote farm with soom weed and then inviting a stoner girl to live with him. https://youtube.com/user/niceyoungladies However, if you want to try: Belarus and maybe neighboring countries seems to be the top candidate among unicorn hunters. It also seems to help a lot to learn Russian. >there is a high chance that my waifu will simply disappear once I have succesfully extracted her from said cockroach-infested-shitflap Don't want to discourage you, but yes, it seems to be safer to live in such a place in have money.
>>12759 Thanks for the encouragement Chobitsu! I have pretty low expectations TBH, so I'm not after a woman who adores me. As long as I find her pleasant to look at and she isn't hostile that's enough for me! I know a lot of guys are after perfect 10s who can almost identically cosplay their anime waifus but this severely increases difficulty and risk. A 5 or 6 is fine by me. Besides which a lot of girls who live in poor areas won't be statuesque stunners with big boobs due to lack of proper nutrients when growing up. Mental and physical health are most important. >The meme is nice guys don't win, but the reality is actually often the opposite. I have found that determination is most important. A guy could be the nastiest bastard around but if he has a weak will then chances are he will just sit stewing and won't get much done. On the other hand a guy can have wonderful ideals and perfect morals but lack the conviction to make some of them reality. I will have to think back to when I was trial-and-erroring Sophie's neck and shoulder joints in the garage. Keep trying until my hands bleed and I can no longer properly grip my tools. Like Guts from Berserk would do. Only then can I rest just so I can try again later. No matter if you are trying to build a robowaifu or get a foreign waifu, I think becoming the determinator is key! If one waifu disappears...she was a prototype - time to start work on the next one LOL!
>>12845 >If one waifu disappears...she was a prototype - time to start work on the next one LOL! Lol true. :^) You are DETERMINATOR!
>>12817 > Women are women. But surely there's a difference between 1.) Western "liberated" woman who can pretty much waltz her way to the front of the queue for any STEM training programme then land a cushy admin job due to forced government quotas (only to promptly fuck off on maternity leave nine months after her probationary period ends). Who expects her husband to live in a three bedroom house, have a few 100K in the bank already and be working towards a $5 million condo with servants and a gardener. Oh, and the kids must get a private education. Gets upset if she can't go to the beauty salon weekly and fly to Mauritius twice a year..(I legit had to work with a bitch like this for about three years on certain shifts and it took all of my strength not to shove a chair leg through her face then unscrew her head from her body. Her maternity leave was actually a mercy.) 2.) Cambodian woman who has seen her grandfather die from malaria, her mother die from typhoid fever, her father lose his left leg below the knee to minefield from the civil war. Has to work 13 hour shifts on plantation or in sweatshop, 6 days a week just to earn enough money for food and clothing and rent her corrugated iron and mud-brick shack from amoral globohomo multinational corporation's sub-sub-contractors. Both of these women will be ruthless (particularly the Cambodian - she needs to be a determinator just to survive). But woman number 2 should also be far less immature and more level-headed when it comes to men. She is more likely to appreciate someone who simply provides enough income for better om-noms from local market, improves her mud brick shack to a proper house and releases her from exploitative, brutal slave-labour.
>>12759 >Just be sure to stay in touch with us here, OK? :^) Well, I now have shitloads of normalfag type stuff to be getting on with. But I will certainly still lurk here occasionally - just to check on developments in A.I. and computing (this board is a sort of "Tomorrow's World" reference, after all!) For someone in the I.T. sector that can be useful. But I have to continue practicing for my A+ exam and then try to get a slightly less dead end job. Also need to learn some Siamese in my free time...unsure about Russian...it's a bit close to the West for me - libs over there are striving for closer European ties and all that rot. Maybe I will try Russian in the future. One thing at a time though. I already have languages training software...maybe if I get good enough i'll download the language pack for my PC and turn Sophie Thai so she can help me, too? 🇹🇭
>>12850 >But I will certainly still lurk here occasionally Hmm, can't say I'm at all pleased with that suggestion SophieDev. After all, 'lurking' implies 'non-participation'. Well and good for you. But for the rest of us, it deprives us all of the benefits of your participation. Please do contribute updates about your doings at the least, yeah? >Russia It's a strange juxtaposition going on there, true. OTOH, as Anon suggested, Belarus is actually still quite based. >Siamese Sophie Kek. It's got a ring, I'd say. Good luck with her new Oriental Adventures Anon! :^)
>>12847 >Western vs Cambodian Their social situation is different, but not their mentality. If you bring one of them to the west she might compare herself to these western women and want the same kind of life Everyone would be on her side in regards to this. Also she would comparing you to the best western man and might try to move on. That aside, personally, I wouldn't take a jungleasian woman as wife. I want my children look like me or be more nordic. If I would decide against children, then why even have a permanent relationship or marriage? Some other men want it only for status, but would get snubbed for having foreign "slave-wife" which doesn't talk to natives and stays at home. Where she might be lonely, but if she has friends she would become "westernized". Another thing: She's might be young(ish) for 15-20 yrs, but children should also be born in this time, which might make her fat. We have a whole thread on robowaifus unique advantages (if we had them) >>17 However, do your thing however you want. Good luck. Maybe look into ressources online, like this Copeland guy from New Zealand I mentioned above. He's putting a lot of thought into it.
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>>12851 > Please do contribute updates about your doings at the least, yeah? Sure thing. If I can get to Far East Asia one day, I will be that much closer to "Robowaifu Central Command" (Japan), anyway. Although I will be too busy just trying to survive to get on a plane and go to any tech expos. >>12852 You're absolutely right that taking my jungle waifu back to the West would have a very bad influence on her anon! This is why I have to go and live there myself (whilst trying not to die of malaria - my previous exp working in pharmacy may help me a little in this regard.) Health and hygiene are massive issues in developing countries, so they are at the top of my priority list and a major reason to learn one of the main languages. The cost of living over there is far, far cheaper (as is human life, of course.) However, I could stay in my home country where true opportunities are very rare and getting sparser by the day as our economy stagnates...plus the cost of living in the U.K. is extreme and only increasing. Or I could go to a scary place with shit infrastructure and a poor but growing economy where there are lots of jobs to do. Fear of change and difference holds a lot of people back from making such a move. But I know that I have no future in the U.K. Just another forever-single guy stuck on minimum wage with his youth slowly slipping away, being demoralised. That's just a living death anyway, anon. May as well put it all on the line and if I die then at least I will have seen some of the world and gone taking my best shot.
>>12877 >Sure thing. Thanks! We look forward to hearing of your adventures Anon. I may meet you there in the Land of Nihongo (Tokyo, Kyoto, or maybe up in the Central Alps) someday myself! :^) Also, are you going to keep working on M66 from time to time? >>11776 And did you 'publish' her at your usual spots yet? Some anon here just might like to rig and animate her one day, with your permission ofc. Honestly, I certainly approve of your sense of adventure in all this SophieDev, and think it must be breddy ebin for you. It's plainly both a long and an honored tradition for a young man to go adventuring afield in search of treasures. I'm trying to live my life that way to the degree I can, and have few regrets in that regard. My chief disappointments thus far have mostly been about things that I didn't go all-out for one way or another! Grab life by the horns while you can, yea? :^) >=== -prose edits
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>>12877 Yeah that makes more sense. Though there comes a point where its just not worth it to live in the west anymore with the dwindling opportunities and rampant cronyism and nepotism leaving most in dire straits anyway. "How hollow rings the bell of victory, when you have no one to share it with" and all that. You're never going to get 100% of what you want in life and will always have to compromise to some extent but those moralfags can seriously fuck off.

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