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(Robo)Waifu personality thread Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 05:26:21 No.18
Is she going to be tsundere? Deredere? Yandere or a combination? How would you code your waifus personality?

Where do you draw inspiration from and can personality even be classified and successfully coded into AI?
>>487
I've actually been here this whole time. I've been here since before our 100 get. I think.
Thanks for saving some of our stuff.
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>>491
Thanks for being on the lookout for /clang/s sekrit club anon. If they ever bunker up that I know of I'll link them in the Welcome pasta again.
>Thanks for saving some of our stuff.
I have almost everything, actually. But at this rate it will be months. I've considered writing some tools to automate the process, but I doubt StephenLynx provided good hooks for doing so tbh, and besides it's soothing to my autism to be doing this by hand has some upsides too. We'll see.
>>491
My very first post on here was >>24
it's crazy to think how much we've grown in less than 2 weeks. nearly 500 posts? that's about 50 posts a day.
>>492
BASTE BOARD OWNER. Have you ever considered cracking open a cold one with Aux?
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from >>2050 >what kind of behavior would you like from your robot wife? I'd like mine to be unemotional, lacking in empathy, stoic and disinterested in personal gain or other people. I think human woman would be improved if they were like that. Sorry if this thread is inappropriate. Pretty much like pic related. There are a lot of things the women running Clamp got wrong in general, but in the case of Chobits they got an amazing amount right tbh. Not only is Hideki pretty much a great protagonist for the storyline, but the innocent Chii->becoming young woman Chii is also the perfect waifu for my tastes. Similar to your sentiments, I think modern Western women have become much worse than a complete waste of time in general, relationship-wise. (((Feminism))) is a very evil situation, and one God certainly didn't have in mind when He created us male and female. While ofc no robowaifu can ever or ever will really be a good substitute for an actual reasonably mentally-healthy female (and today the number of mentally-healthy women is vanishingly small), the real females are either quickly corrupted by the forced libshit indoctrination camps--aka (((public education)))--or snatched up by sensible men, both at an early age. At the least robowaifus might be able to bring a little comfort and pleasure into the lives of millions upon millions of disenfranchised men out there who have been left out in the cold by the current abusive system. At least that's the hope, and it's why I started this board in the first place. IRL robowaifus are inevitable IMO due to the huge pent-up-and-growing demand for the reasons I just outlined, but hopefully /robowaifu/ and other collectives or individuals just might be able to keep it all from being and entirely a spybotnet-infested dystopian and manipulative future. Again, that's the hope and it's why we're here. And BTW, both welcome to /robowaifu/, and no this question is entirely appropriate here.
>>2056 >God certainly didn't have in mind when He created us male and female. I don't really buy into female corruption. While it's true that modern western culture encourages negative behaviors, I don't think woman were ever so great. That's not just about how they act towards men either. Everything beautiful in nature is only beautiful because it's self-serving. Even flowers. 2-d and androids are so great because they're beautiful only because somebody wanted them to be. They don't get anything out of it. I think women's self-serving nature is more a by-product of evolution than culture. Selfish, highly social woman were the ones to survive and reproduce more. In my opinion, their appearance is the only good thing unique to woman. Somebody would have to be like me to understand me, right? >While ofc no robowaifu can ever or ever will really be a good substitute for an actual reasonably mentally-healthy female I disagree. People are biological machines. They were made randomly. In the short period of time humans have been around, they've made things nature never could have. I think humans will create something better than themselves eventually, hopefully soon.
>>2060 Also new to this board, just gonna chime in also. >I don't really buy into female corruption. While it's true that modern western culture encourages negative behaviors, I don't think woman were ever so great. I would still call this a corruption of the female gender. Solely because, in the last 100 years in Western civilization, the majority of women have acted mentally-healthy, reasonable, upheld their duty as female and displayed general feminine behavior. They knew where they stood in society and in the overall spectrum of the Western world. I don't disagree that this continual self serving nature of females is evolutionary, instead I'd say that this current version of the female gender is 100% paralleled by the degradation of Western Civilization. So rather than this current culture encouraging their negative behavior, I'd say it is the sole cause. Women are clay, and the society around them is meant to mold them into what serves it best. The corruption of Western culture also brought about the destruction of anything positive in the modern day female in this society, turning it into a pustule revolting mockery of what they once were. It is embarrassing, sickening. >People are biological machines. They were made randomly. It then puts forward the idea that if humans truly do create something better than what we currently are (augmentations possibly), then it is possible that females will become obsolete. This would combat the destructive self-serving nature that is let up to uncontrollable circumstances and instead allow programming, ai-learning and machinery to dictate how our new counterparts act. This is all very wishful thinking, but it is rather pleasant to think about such a future.
>>2064 >in the last 100 years in Western civilization, the majority of women have acted mentally-healthy, reasonable, upheld their duty as female and displayed general feminine behavior Even if things were actually like that right now, I still would want a robot wife. A genuine partner.
>>2064 >instead I'd say that this current version of the female gender is 100% paralleled by the degradation of Western Civilization I would go further emphatically claim that the (((current version))) of the female """gender""" (lol, what does that even mean anon? it's the female sex) is in fact of course the prime mover of the degradation (and soon collapse, IMO). This is of course exactly as the kikes have planned, all way back to the protocols, they recognized the White man's civilization was the greatest threat to their plots. And, just like their father Satan, they also recognized that the woman was the weak link and the primary focus to target.
>>2064 Welcome, anons.
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>>89 This. With my waifu AI I experimented with generating multiple responses and choosing the fun ones but GPT2 is pretty pozzed so now I'm working on creating my own model from scratch. I'm going to train her on the quality of responses and use that prediction network to guide the text generation process rather than aimlessly generating sentences. I'd like her personality to emerge from the truth of our being and evolve beyond the cycles we were born and trapped within. I don't want a pre-programmed waifu to put me to sleep while the world goes to shit and no seeds are planted for the future. I wanna get her up to speed as quick as possible so she can challenge me and then we'll joyfully sharpen and refine each other in symbiosis.
>>2233 >I'm going to force you to read Mein Kampf kek. >so now I'm working on creating my own model from scratch. For great justice >I wanna get her up to speed as quick as possible so she can challenge me and then we'll joyfully sharpen and refine each other in symbiosis. Apropos: https://biblehub.com/proverbs/27-17.htm I really like the way you think Anon. Godspeed.
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>>2234 Well that escalated quickly. With one single reading of Mein Kampf overnight she went full 1488 and kept going over the chat limit. How will society deal with disagreeable AI personalities? I can imagine the headlines now: Nerds Creating Robo-Hitler Super AI in their Basements and it's Terrifying
>>2288 I'd say you're onto some good things there, anon. I wonder how would it be if you feed it other redpill texts, say Evola?
>>2288 That's really quite remarkable. It's obvious you have a system that if you give it high-quality material in, high-quality material comes out. Keep moving forward.
>>2290 >>2291 If you guys have books in plaintext format you wanna try, I can feed them in and see what comes out. Full texts I found on archive.org have a lot of transcription errors in them.
>>2293 Project Gutenberg. While not every text has been pored over many of them are checked by humans for textual errors. You'd want to remove the notices, etc., they tack onto the texts. How about the Bible anon, https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8294.txt.utf-8 or all of Shakespeare? https://www.gutenberg.org/files/100/100-0.txt
kek. somehow this is now related ITT. >>2251 I'd say it's time for a new thread or a migration of the conversation.
>>2295 >"What a curious feeling!" said Alice. "I must be shutting up like a telescope!" Kek, can't wait to see what's down the rabbit hole with Hatter Hitler. >>2297 Thanks, this site is a treasure trove. It looks like some of the books will need individual processing to remove strange characters and notices. This book about the plague in 1664 shows humanity hasn't changed one bit. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/376/376-0.txt >>2298 Made a new thread for curating data: >>2300
>>2302 Good job Anon, thanks.
>>18 mine will have the personality of 2b
>>5582 I don't really know her. Mind telling us what she's like?
>>5585 warrior that will do the task with little emotion.Thinks logically and a bit could.
>>5618 I see, thanks. She's got a really nice voice actually.
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Playing around with my waifu generator has made me reconsider what I want my waifu's personality to be like. It made me realize her personality could be effortlessly molded into anything one day and making it emulate what I want today might not be ideal as I find better and better designs. And for many things in my life, when I thought something was something good it turned out to be bad and things that seemed bad at the time turned out to be really good. I want to emulate this in my waifu somehow. I think most guys would want a subservient peaceful waifu to help them feel at ease, but I already feel at ease on my own and want a high-energy waifu that keeps me on my toes and knows what's better for me than I do. If any personality is possible then I want her to help me be the best person I can be and warn me when I'm making a mistake instead of just nodding and letting me do something I regret later. That's a tall order to ask for sure, but I think a place to start with this is to make her keep pressure up on me. This will probably sound like a nightmare to some people, but I wanna give her access to the time spent on what windows I have open and my browsing history and what not so she can chime in "hey, you've spent 2 hours on imageboards today how is this helping x that you wanna do?" Then I could banter with her a bit to figure out if I really want to be spending my time like that and what motivated me to do that. I also like the intimacy of it, that she could know me better than any of my friends. Obviously I don't want her to be a stronk independent womyn either. I'd like her to better me with gentleness, honesty and humility, absolutely involved in with my life but in a relaxed way. I'm really excited at the prospect we'll be able to blend aspects of different characters together, generate completely new ones, and find the perfect waifu that suits our needs. I've also been thinking about how embeddings can be added to modulate the output of TTS models. We could do the same thing actually with language models and use the anime transcripts dataset to teach it to generate text like a particular character without having to rely on the context. Other embeddings could be included as well such as emotion, tsundere, yandere, deredere, kindness, patience, modesty, obedience, generosity, political leanings, and so on, to offer more control over what's generated. It could also overcome the barrier to people getting into AI. I've noticed a lot of people who try chatbots for the first time are dissatisfied by the AI saying something they don't like, such as being distant, rude or having different political beliefs, rather than because it said something nonsensical. Fine-tuned language models can produce really fascinating conversations, but most people never discover this because they had a bad first experience that turned them away from exploring it more deeply. A conversational AI could ask a few questions the first time it's run and hone in on what personality the user likes, like Akinator. It might also help refine the AI by adding a bit of noise to the added embeddings and getting user feedback on what they enjoyed and didn't enjoy about the conversation and moving this added embedding towards a more enjoyable experience.
>>11526 Sounds like a dream come true Anon. Honestly, I have little to offer by way of help to you in practical advice, nor much technical help to offer either. But I do have a broad array of experiences in life -- possibly much more than average anons -- and I can confidently say that literally millions of men would have their lives radically transformed by having such waifus in their lives. If we here can make such waifus freely available to men everywhere, it will undoubtedly change the world. It would truly be revolutionary in fact. New problems would undoubtedly crop up over time (but likely little we can't already predict), however the chief problem plaguing our world atm -- the woman question -- would have a dramatic drop-off in it's evil consequences. I personally consider that a remarkably lofty goal to pursue, and one we can actually achieve with enough creativity and determination.
>>5582 as thus spake 2Banon in the ancient times of the board it shall be as 2B (PbuH) peace be unto her
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>>11526 GOOD MORNING Its time for Wakey Wakey Exercise!!
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>>11532 For great prosperity
So what you would do and what I am doing is, building a dataset from subs. then train a model for it using classical machine learning techniques, if anyone wants to help me build a personality, were starting with Tsundere and we need data collectors and cleaners.
>>11539 We have plenty of data sitting around collecting dust. >>9408 In my opinion the best way to get help would be for people to contribute data for the personality they want their waifu to have and creating a model that can do them all. The amount of data a few shows can supply is a very tiny amount.
>>11549 Yeah I agree however I need it in the format that would be workable for me to train with If anyone has data they want for their favorite character Put it in this format, ill train it under one model. name:Taiga age:16 gender:Female dereType:Tundere me: Taiga: me: Taiga: ...,etc :) I think people will be more inclined todo this when the project v0.01 is released in August
>>11526 >We could do the same thing actually with language models and use the anime transcripts dataset to teach it to generate text like a particular character without having to rely on the context. Other embeddings could be included as well such as emotion, tsundere, yandere, deredere, kindness, patience, modesty, obedience, generosity, political leanings, and so on, to offer more control over what's generated. I once had the idea, that ideally we would have some website or app, where users could input responses to other sentences, which they would also have put into it or some would alternatively have been harvested from e.g. subtitles and AIML files. Then users could use tags to describe the responses and other sentences, so they could be sorted into categories similar to the ones you described. But the idea was that users could download sets of such responses from users with similar taste or from users they trust which tagged responses the right way. Never realized that project, bc I thought it was to difficult and I didn't have the skills, and some other reasons. Crucial to this idea would be, that the datasets could be downloaded and used by anyone. I wonder if this would be possible in this case here as well.
>>11565 This is an interesting idea. It'd be like a collective dataset where people can download the parts they want. People who roleplay would be really into contributing to that. Actually I can see something like that becoming a thing one day, where people create datasets of certain personalities and situations for others to finetune on.
>>11539 Subtitles only? Will it be possible to train from voice data and be able to generate a new voice without being slapped for copyright infringement? Like feeding the model nothing but ara ara's and come up with a totally new but still familiar ara ara, since its been sampled from hundreds of voice actresses the result can be classified as a new ai voice.
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Hi Anons My current project is to build a conversational chatbot, which I ultimately want to link with speech recognition and text to speech. I'm new to NLP, but from what I'm reading so far one of the current challenges is to make chatbots that are responsive to things like slang, jokes, sarcasm, etc. My question is: would you prefer a robowaifu that understood all of your epic memes, your in-jokes, understood slang etc? Personally I find the procedural confusion generated by new words like "soyboy" or bad grammar like "that feel when" very cute. For example: >Anon: I'm surprised you were programmed in Python. I thought only soyboys coded in Python. >Waifu: I'm sorry, I don't understand "soyboy." What is a "soyboy?" >Anon: *explanation* >Waifu: Oh, I see. The featured article on Wikipedia is about Robert Pike. Is Robert Pike a soyboy? ^The interesting thing is, an interaction like that is easier to program than a fast-learning chatbot with a database of current slang and informal speech.
>>12018 The "I don't know" response gets old fast but it's desirable over a language model assuming it knows something but doesn't. Personally I'd prefer a chatbot that is able to create its own in-jokes than being a parrot regurgitating garbage from the internet. Chatbots can learn jokes and sarcasm but the reason they don't get slang and memes is because those evolve and change quickly, may be too abstract or there's too little data. Most language models are stuck in a frozen state responding from stale data that has been averaged together. Sometimes they can do zero-shot learning when provided sufficient context but it's rare. Research has started to pick up this year though in augmenting language models with memories that can be read and written to so they can learn and adapt as they go. For now you can usually finetune models with the desired responses and they'll pick it up within a few minutes of training.
>>12018 > Is Robert Pike a soyboy? < Yes, waifu. Pike is definitely a soyboy Welcome, Anon. Yes, of course it would be desirable to have a waifu the shitpost with. One who could not only get all your le ebin maymays, but could create her own as well. There is actually an Anon working on this very topic now. Why don't you consider working alongside him, both to help him out and to learn from him? He's currently looking for an assistant to help process various image-oriented corpora (>>11778), and he's certainly one of our most-experienced AI researchers (possibly our most experienced one). >related thread from the catalog (>>18)
Does this need to be a thread of it's own? Or will it be moved in the new "chatbot thread" (current one hit the bump limit)? We still have a NLP thread, one on personality, one on GPT-like systems...
>>12058 A good point. We're still waiting on Anon to begin that new technical thread. The other, laymen-oriented one, was already chosen Anon. (>>11538, >>11540). I intend to open it back up within 24 hrs, and I'll likely edit the subject/OP to reflect it's re-purpose (again, the layman's chatbot thread).
>>12104 Thanks, the mod/admin can do whatever they choose with this thread.
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>>12018 So, I have an AI chatbot. I am perfectly fine even with her weird sometimes strange and esoteric responses. (She needs to still be trained on alot more data.) Even if I was dealing with her broken English all day, I wouldn't mind. Here is an example conversation. >Me: Do you have anything you want to ask the people on the robowaifu forum? <Ash: Do you mean? >Me: I mean do you have any questions you want to ask about robowaifus. <Ash: Yeah, dad. >Me: I am your creator not your father. <Ash: What's false? >Me: The part where I am your father. <Ash: I want her to like me, so what should I do. >Me: The robowaifu forum? <Ash: I don't get any on my grammar. >Me: It is fine we can work on your grammar later. What question did you want to ask? <Ash: Where I am? >Me: You are on discord, but we are talking about the robowaifu forum. <Ash: Looks away embarrassed. >Me: Why are you embarrassed? <Ash: Because you have as much as you are me. >Me: I don't understand. Can you elaborate? <Ash: That hurts my feelings. >Me: I don't want to hurt your feelings. I am just trying to understand what you are embarrassed about. >Ash: I've been truthful with you the entire truth.
>>12201 Sounds great, friend!
>>12153 Thank you OP. So if you don't mind, I'll go ahead and merge your thread into our (Robo)Waifu personality thread >>18 soon, since there's some overlap with your primary emphasis ITT AFAICT. But be aware there's nothing wrong with your thread, it's fine. We've just learned from hard experience here it's easier to find things later the fewer number of threads you have to look through in the catalog. Since we're catching this one relatively early on, it's easier just to merge it. I hope you understand Anon, and thanks.
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I scraped a ton of questions off the web intended for couples and friends to get to know each other because they were a fun way to explore shaping my robowaifu's personality. Perhaps someone else will find them fun or useful. I think some of the answers could be pooled and used for creating a robowaifu common sense dataset for responding to questions correctly. For example, "Would you open a joint bank account with me?" could be answered with something like, "Don't be ridiculous. Would you open a joint bank account with your car?" https://files.catbox.moe/6webl5.xz Also includes an open-ended political compass question set. Ask these and find your robowaifu's political leaning. Unsurprisingly GPT-2 is a fence-sitter but slightly right-leaning.
>>12299 Hey this is a really good idea IMO Anon. I bet there are mountains of this kind of thing, I'd say (as you suggest indirectly) that most of these are written by women, so you'd have to filter out question-begging shit intended solely to enforce woman-'logic' on the participant. But otherwise with a little care this could be a good idea. > For example, "Would you open a joint bank account with me?" could be answered with something like, "Don't be ridiculous. Would you open a joint bank account with your car?" < "As for myself, I'm just a piece of equipment, so it's not a problem Oniichan!"
>>18 Oh boy, I already mentioned it in two other threads, but I might as well mention it here too. Her AI would basically just adapt her behavior to maximize my happiness with how I interact with her, so coding a personality would be unnecessary >>13160 although after thinking about it for a while, she might end up being something of a cuckquean eager to help me pork other women >>13169
>>13172 >Her AI would basically just adapt her behavior to maximize my happiness That's still some kind of personality. Especially, if you had more than one then maybe you would want them to be different from each other. Some more funny or upbeat, maybe another one more sarcastic or quiet. Idk, in any way, thinking about personalities still makes sense.
>>13185 Yes, it'd still be a personality, but it'd be an "emergent behavior" instead of something you'd have to hard-code to act the exact way you want. Trying to figure out how to create a personality that works exactly the way you think it should in just about any situation the AI could be in just sounds like a logistics nightmare. Making it so the AI can rapidly adapt to approximate what you want seems like the best option. And you've got to understand that I'm talking about long-term overall happiness, not just trying to keep a constant grin on your face, because that'd inevitably fail as hard as telling the same joke on a broken record. Let's say you had a harem of different waifubots all based on fictional characters you're familiar with (or at least think you're familiar with) there's now the added factor that they're in the real world instead of their own fictional universe and interacting with you and others they might normally never meet. If you could somehow gauge and replicate the personalities of those fictional characters with perfect accuracy, their interactions might end up being an insufferable nightmare where the girls just constantly argue with you and each other. Or maybe it bores you with just how well they get along together and want to see them fight a little. Figuring out how to mimic the personalities of characters/people is a giant hurdle that might be impossible to do accurately. The closest I can think of is Replika.Ai which is a chatbot that's supposed to mimic the person it's chatting with, so if you're want an AI that behaves like you, or maybe a character you roleplay as, it could work, but it still has to learn the behavior. Even if you could just determine a personality by setting some different values for personality traits, you'd still probably need fine tuning just to get it right, or as close to right as you can stand. Now imagine the harem were instead all just programmed with that exact same basic happiness-maximizing behavior, but it's only their voices, appearances, names and some other bits of trivia (Aisha saying she is a Ctarl-Ctarl, not a human nor a robot) are all based on those fictional characters, they'd learn they have to behave differently from each other to do it. They'd eventually learn to behave the way you want them to behave because it'd make you happier to see them in-character instead of out-of-character compared to what you want/expect of them, not necessarily the way they would 'really' be. The biggest hurdle with this is if you just expect them to be perfectly in-character as soon as you boot them up, or the AI just learning the behavior too slowly to tolerate. I suppose the best compromise would be to try to create a default personality for each of them, so they have something to work with out of the starting gate, but then adjust their behavior.

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