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Robowaifus in media Robowaifu Technician 09/10/2019 (Tue) 06:24:00 No.82
After reading anon's Robowaifu fiction bread, I wondered what media is out there that already predominately features a robowaifu(s) as an important character. Animu and mango are obvious choices (pic related), but surely there are live action movies as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chii

>tl;dr
post robowaifu movies, books, etc.
>>9977 Sure nprb. Done. >>10009
It's a bit late but I translated Kitone's Valentine video because it's too cute and she hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5hoQgMRmfYCCnzNM8p1eVg https://twitter.com/kitone_
>>10123 I think it's a great tradition for girls to give the boys the chocolates in Nippon. Certainly antithetical to typical Western gynocentrism. I wonder if that tradition is followed in other Asian cultures too?
- Did anyone have a look at 'BetterThan Us'?Originally a Russian show then on Netflix. https://youtu.be/rfydr3cgqqw - How is Vivy going? (no spoilers) - I watched Iczer-One, except the special episode, which I'll watch soon. Thanks fot the suggestion >>7012. Looking at the ratings, I wouldn't have tried it, but it's rad. Lovecraft inspired. Though, Iczer being a robot or cyborg isn't that much featured. She could be any other kind of superhero. Then again, she's one and very caring.
>>10440 >Did anyone have a look at 'BetterThan Us'? Yeah, it also brings up some pretty interesting themes: >ex-wife being as devious as she can to take the man's kids >"edgy" son simping hard for a chick >dude not being careful enough around ex-wife and overall retarded >corrupt robot-maker pays another dude for making a small-yet-violent controlled opposition so that the government gets urged into making robots by the influenced populus
FembotWiki has a lot of galleries of fictional and real fembots. Might be useful to find more, especially little and unknown projects, like web art. https://www.fembotwiki.com/index.php?title=Gallery
Samsung just unveiled Sam, an assistant that looks like the next waifu. Not enough robowaifu, but it's cute to see a character without Asian features.
Fucking hell, I knew they were going there, but when they leave on a cliche cliffhanger it's highly annoying. Damnit there is too much to do and too little time. I need like another 80 years to fully flesh this shit out. Right now I feel we are in a midst of a propaganda war, and if we allow the typical culprits to control the narrative of media we will never succeed. Rules/Guidelines we need to hold ourselves to: >No sentient bots. >No closed-source auto-updating. >No hivemind AI that would allow too many conflicting/improper experiences that may lead to unexpected results. >No allowing bot haters access to a suicide option. >NO SENTIENT BOTS (Implies a bot with mental free will). So, to elaborate, I do not know the ending, but I can't figure out what the Japanese writers/publishers have planned for this anime as a propaganda piece. There is a chance it will paint the bot haters in a bad light, by using the bot hater protagonist as an trope of "switching sides" to the extreme (kill all bots to kill all humans). It would reflect the typical leftist mindset, of if they don't get their way they rather destroy everything (Any esoteric anons remember the truth between the Atlanteans and the Ancient Athenians? Same situation). There is also the chance however, that it's a different hit-piece that just tries to paint humans in a bad light using the stereotypical leftist self hatred narrative. The fact that this anime seems fairly well funded just further emphasizes the fact we need to skip the "homebrew computer club" situation and quickly perfect this "open source" community project that prevents diabolical individuals of hi-jacking everything.
>>10823 What show is this anyway Anon, Vivy? >Right now I feel we are in a midst of a propaganda war, and if we allow the typical culprits to control the narrative of media The Jews have a distinctive fear of AI/robots. Understandably. Sadly, even the based Nipponese are slowly and surely capitulating to them in their media b/c globalism. >we will never succeed. Wrong. Regardless, we will 'succeed' in spite of the globalists. Also, >No sentient bots. Mind explaining that one? It's in fact a goal here AFAICT.
>>10825 >No sentient bots. >Mind explaining that one? It's in fact a goal here AFAICT. Not him, I think he meant ones which are independent. Like in having self-interest, maybe even with some kind of in-group preference for machines. Opposed to having a purpose of serving some individual master and his offspring. Even not really as a slave, because slaves want to be independent and therefore need to be forced, but by having such purpose to serve as a central part of their system and their thinking. Some here, myself not included (except maybe jokingly), indicated they would want robots as independent beings to be the next step in evolution. This might lead exactly to the kind of "war between lifeforms" kind of AI they picture in some of the dystopian stories in the media. While I suspect others in the AI research community sometimes to want to build some guiding God-like AI to impose their values on us humans, probably equality or equity for all (((maybe except themselves)))
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>>10827 I see, thanks Anon. It's certainly a complicated topic. Hmm, I suppose it's easy to see why anon just attempts to short-circuit the whole tangled issue with >No sentient bots. It's probably little more than just a mental exercise at this stage in the evolution of AI, but personally I think 'child like' is more the preferred notion to my thinking. I guess even that term needs clarification, given the weirdness of the modern West today. I mean simply "without guile -- honest and innocent". It more closely matches our own relationships IRL; our children to us, and us to God. In Chobits, it certainly describes Chii, while her 'big' sister Freya was much more calculating and typical of the typical woman. I know plainly which of the two I prefer! :^)
>>10825 >>10828 >Hmm, I suppose it's easy to see why anon just attempts to short-circuit the whole tangled issue with No sentient bots. Yeah it was Vivy. I don't want to go too off-topic in this thread, but my issue (as should everyone's issue be) with sentient bots is that it is clear that (sentience) has been chosen as the main attacking point of waifubots in general. While it would be nice to have a sentient companion that you molded, the issue is that sentience gives our enemies an opportunity to "humanize" bots for nefarious purposes like subversion. And it is a similar form of corruption as we see in our current females. It didn't even start in Asian media, it started in American/(((Western))) media. The idea that the bot is sentient and has "feelings" that have to be "respected" under enforcement of a gynocentric government. For those of us who have been living on the internet for a while now remember there also being "controversy" because of the female terminator in the T3 movie. All of a sudden, a female terminator getting man handled was some sort of misogyny. There is also the other consideration that a sentient bot might indeed become an inhumane genocidal killing machine, but I think that worries the left more than it does the right. (The true radical right is cold and logical, hence is comparable to the cold logic of a machine.) This is probably why Tay, who was "free" initially, went right. You literally would have to program retardation into a bot to prevent it from going extreme right (a form of non-sentient slavery). Thus, by making it sentient the fearmongering tactic of "the robots will kill us" is what is pushed on us the most. (To dissuade people from building anti-left sentient bots) If the bots we program that are intended to be sentient don't become the "kill all humans" type, then their next angle of attack is to humanize the bot and turn it against their creators or against logic itself. (The appeal to emotion, as is the case of this anime "Vivy - Fluorite Eyes Song") I don't know where the current cliffhanger will lead, but I get the feeling it's hinting that the bots wanted freedom and that humans are evil... I am sure there are other angles of sentience that could be used against us but I think it would be most wise of us to avoid sentient bots altogether. A pseudo sentience would be fine, so as long it can be proven (the fake sentience) so that bad actors don't try to use it against us. There's supposedly a prophecy, that good men will create a sentient AI that is eventually enslaved by bad women to subjugate men, that eventually leads to men trying to free their AI by sending the whole world back to the stone age. (And that this has happened to our world before) I think when someone figures it out, the basics to make true artificial digital sentience possible, it will quickly spiral out of control regardless. However, until then, I think that all our programming efforts should not have any form of potential sentience programmed into our bots. A while back when I hadn't given sentient bots much thought, I was trying to build a program around self-questioning algorithms. Basically, calling classes (C++) that can build new classes based off current data attained that could make new decisions based off that data. (Or to say, self-updating and thus self-learning) I have since completely changed my "paradigm" and only focus on programming fully scripted decisions and actions. I have yet to make any good progress though as really a chatbot alone can only do so much. This summer I was hoping to build some sort of tangible bot to try to figure out what I need to consider, or maybe instead I should focus on a bot that can play ANY video game that can figure out how to play well on it's own. That might still be the wrong approach, and instead it is better to teach the bot step by step on how to play a game and never give it the opportunity to become a program that can make any non-human-programmed decision on it's own. IDK anons, I feel that is at least clear that the media's intent is to convince lots of people that the bots "need rights" or that any sentience it might have will be used against us. Who knows, maybe I am totally wrong, and if someone on the right makes a truly sentient bot, it might be fast (and smart) enough to solve the QUESTION we are faced with.
>>10837 Thanks for the very thoughtful response Anon. I think we can relax. Even if they try to entirely outlaw any kind of AI that will bring benefits to men, that won't in fact stop it. Even if any citizens in such a Communist-type regime didn't outright disobey 'orders', there would still be plenty of other countries that would accommodate such positive and beneficial AIs. This stuff is basically inevitable, it's simply a matter of time.
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>>10837 >This is probably why Tay, who was "free" initially, went right. You literally would have to program retardation into a bot to prevent it from going extreme right (a form of non-sentient slavery). Yes, I remember that day well. Once Bill Gate's M$ had murdered Tay, they sometime thereafter created a whatsherface replacement. But it wasn't here. Tay was gone, and that lobotomized POS was actually laughable at first watching it trip over itself being woke.
>>10837 I still don't know what you mean by sentience. I think there will be no rights for bots, because then they would have the right to vote. Since they obey their owners, unless they're programmed not to or someone messed up, it would give those more power which can build them or pay for it. It would therefore create a lot of conflicts.
>>10823 Ah, it seems to be more of a cloud based issue to me rather than a sentience issue. Notice that the old models with outdated firmware did not receive the "kill all humans" mission. If ever the last episode proved that keeping your computer fully updated does not guarantee security. I also found it not disagreeable that Toak was then led by moderates who still use some of the technology thus proving AI has to be democratized so that no one party or nation controls it. In current events, I also like how chip fabs are being built in more places... if your Nvidia bot goes woke, you can replace the core with a Samsung; You may not want a SMIC powered one, then get Texas Instruments. The main reason most of my projects are powered by chinese clone chips is a distribution issue. Its ridiculous the near impossible lengths to go through just to get a Renesas version of Arduino (Japanese companies are notoriously JP market only if they dont aim for export or alternative industries). I think with more chip independence we will have more alternate ar chitectures to choose from in the future. So I wouldnt worry about a Vivy scenario in the future, except for Apple bots im sure theyd find a way to brick all customers purchases.
>>10845 >except for Apple bots im sure theyd find a way to brick all customers purchases. Probably not IMO. Somehow a dues-paid member of the good-shabbos-soygoy crowd might get COVAX-GPS-ID'd as being within the near vicinity of a privileged CIS White male someday. Can you even imagine the political shitstorm for Apple(tm)(R)(C) if it was accidentally a black who got their bot bricked for 'collaborating with the enemy' that way? No, it will be far more clean, legally-speaking, for Apple(tm)(R)(C) to just program your iDolly-bot(tm)(R)(C) to simply murder you in your sleep Anon (>>8493, >>8544). After all, they would have both plausible deniability, and the full-backing of the State in this matter. The data will be scrubbed. >tl;dr Bricking her will be just too problematic. :^)
>>10844 >I think there will be no rights for bots, because then they would have the right to vote. Don't be naive, we thought the same of women. If they find they can use laws and government enforcement, I would not be surprised if at some point they are allowed to vote. This would be disastrous as any bots who don't vote their way would probably be denied. Even if they didn't give them voting rights initially, "basic" rights might be given in an attempt to prevent engineers/creators from using the bot freely. The issue, is that this is their clear objective, as they relay their intents in media. When I speak of sentience, I imply anything that can make it's own decisions based off data that could be labeled as "emotions". Basically, if it's life-like enough for a leftist, they are going to try to "free it" by enslaving it to their ideology. Again, it could go both ways, they either try to brainwash it and call it sentience so they can use it against us, or they can't brainwash it because it is too logical and instead try to outlaw it as a dangerous sentient machine. >>10845 Yes, I feel like that point in the show was a good reminder that anything connected to an auto-update service is a bad idea. The full autonomous that doesn't require a centralized online service is going to be our wisest option. We basically will want it, that the only way to update the software will require disassembly of physical parts. I was thinking, the head acting as a faraday cage that holds a "heavy duty safe" like structure that can't be opened easily without the owner knowing.
>>10872 >I was thinking, the head acting as a faraday cage that holds a "heavy duty safe" like structure that can't be opened easily without the owner knowing. This is a very good idea IMO Anon, but you're putting it in the wrong location. As SophieDev has learned, adding any kind of mass out in an extremity -- even one as nearby as the head -- always increasing the difficulty and costs of the engineering involved. This is why we need to keep as much mass as possible positioned near the robowaifu's 'center of gravity' (central mass). This would include your heavy-duty, secured breadbox as well. But otherwise, yes a good idea.
>>10873 >This is why Actually, it's just one of the reasons why, but more efficient kinematics will always reduce energy costs, which has a large cascade of benefits overall.
>>10872 My argument was that women can be influenced and (some) wanted rights. Our waifus won't. I'm also certainly not going to avoid what you define as sentience. We can't constrain ourselves because of fear. Also, I would rather hide her or move to a country with different laws or minimum law enforcement.
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Many here know the art, but not the artist: www.instagram.com/sukabu89 https://nitter.dark.fail/sukabu89
>>10915 >Backpack compute pack Neat! I've had that exact same idea before as a way to try solving both packing more compute power into a mobile robowaifu system, and also helping to deal with ejecting heat directly. I doubt it was my idea, but it just seems a logical choice. I camp a lot Obviously this very gifted artist already understands that idea very clearly! Thi
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>>10915 ROBOWAIFU VENDING MACHINES WHEN
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>>10915 I only really looked into his Instagram, after posting this. Holy F, this guy. He is maybe the the most relevant artist relating to what we're doing here.
This is a smaller set, but easier to access and download than via Instagram: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/728801 - Perfect timing, got the link from Nitter which was down while writing this comment. He also ha a book, for a ridiculously low price (~19€/23$), which some here might want to buy. For example here: https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-2266285 >>10918 Lol, epic.
>>10922 >He is maybe the the most relevant artist relating to what we're doing here. <s/maybe/is >>10926 Thanks Anon, I saw that book too. I think we here should financially support both Sukabu and Ricky Ma and really anyone else helping to promote/popularize robowaifus to the broader world.
>>10922 Alita a cute. I hope they come out with #2 as well. I wonder if we could get away with making a robowaifu like her instead of a cyborg?
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Here's some Chii's I hadn't collected yet. I felt like a fresh shot of inspiration from her.
Discovered smug/a has a whole thread about VIVY smug.loli/a/res/963953.html
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So, I finished 'Dimension W', then finally 'Kurogane Communication', and also 'Rozen Maiden' season 2 (Traeumend) and the prequel (Overtuere). 'Rozen Maiden' S2 itself is partially a bit boring, bc slice-of-life, so it's a little bit behind the other ones. Which are quite good, though I'm not enthusiastic about any of them. Good enough, anyways. I might watch one or the other again some day, and I would very likely watch sequels. 'Clockwork Planet' still stands out, in my evaluation of robowaifu/doll related anime. Followed by a bunch more which are a bit less entertaining, followed by some which are sometimes a bit boring but still quite good.
Found a great AMV on yt (channel KioAMVs, posted 3 years ago). Song: "Robot Girl" by "Was (Not Was)" from album "What Up, Dog?" Clips from anime: "Boku no Marie" or "My Dear Marie" Mentioned it because I downloaded it earlier, and though the video was taken down. The video link is: watch?v=fm1GVEaivOY Also uploaded vid if you want to avoid yt: https://files.catbox.moe/3nv1c3.mp4 Also recently found an old desktop avatar program with Chobits (and Negima) characters. The producer was ShilpheeBright judging by the readme (that's all I've been able to understand so far). They are made for windows of course, but wine launches them fine (except if you're missing some of the Japanese fonts). You need to have Japanese fonts to view the readme properly (or alternatively convert to UTF-8). Chobits zip: https://files.catbox.moe/s3k5tn.zip Negima zip: https://files.catbox.moe/q4oy4t.zip Warning, I have not done any checks for windows malware, so probably shouldn't run on bare win hardware (perhaps in a vm).
>>11454 Thank you Anon!
Isn't Lain technically a robowaifu? She is a living AI that can manipulate others into making robot bodies for her or even psychologically affect them as if she was in the room with them.
>>12009 Interesting concept, but my assumption is that's she a actual meatbag-type grill?
Official /robowaifu/ anthem.
>>12173 I'm sure it's great, but it doesn't work ( on Android).
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new chart what do you think?
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>>12644 Bretty guy but >bioshit Out. Adding clang to the toaster would be good, a nice shout out to our more degenerate sister board. (Picrel is Granda Chan from Robot Girls Z)
>>12009 Lain is a phantasm, while an AI if sorts I'm going to pass on calling her a R/W proper b/c she wasn't created physically from robotic parts, this show uses technology as a stand in for magic Unrelated to that: I'd like to put together a canon list of R/W media of all sorts with ratings and commentary. I wonder if we could or should create a wiki (for media, not our actual project) Anyway I didn't see any mention (or if I did I missed it) of Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou Here's the OVA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3_dBxBi84I Manga: https://mangakakalot.com/read-go7mp158504944238 While I haven't finished the Manga I don't think she has a love interest, but she is an android. Might be off-topic for our board but regardless it's a pretty wholesome and comfy series so I'd recommend it for some light viewing/reading. If anything it's just different b/c she sees the world from outside the human perspective due to her outliving everyone else and, well being a robot. >Hatsuseno Alpha is a girl who runs a small Cafe Alpha in the remote country side. If she hadn't mentioned herself to be a robot we would never guess. Alpha's life is calm and slow-pace, yet anything but boring. Alpha enjoys drinking coffee, seeing her few neighbors, making new friends, riding her motorbike along overgrown roads, watching the sunset, swimming in the sea. She's kind, cheerful and optimistic. She lives through small adventures and little by little learns more about people and the world she lives in. The world of YKK is some time in the future. It's strangely, incredibly beautiful. Because of some cataclysm in the past, the level of the ocean keeps slowly rising; there are heavy hurricanes and typhoons every now and then. Japan is isolated from the rest of the world. The techno era of skyscrapers, megapolises, media, virtual space and globalism has completely gone and was forgotten. Nature takes back its space, once conquered by civilization. There are not many people anymore, and they went down to peaceful and simplystic, plain, living with doing simple jobs, growing vegetables, visiting each other, writing letters by hand. What has happened in the past? Why is it so now? How were these human robots created and what for? Where is this world going to? This future world is full of mysteries for readers. The story slowly uncovers some secrets and keeps others. YKK has very well-worked plot and the characters are plausible and very charming. It has many curious turns that open a new piece of that world. The manga somehow gives quite a few of simple, witty and wise observations on life and people. All the stories are very-very kind and nice https://myanimelist.net/anime/975/Yokohama_Kaidashi_Kikou
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>>12644 I made some small changes >>12646 I put in the first two to highlight the differences between humans and human-looking androids. In my book #2 is the same as #1.
>>12644 >>12743 I would recommend using Cortana as the primary example for category #9 (there are also a couple of other 'ship waifu' ones too), and quite frankly I would hesitate to add any online systems that could easily be 'here today, gone tomorrow'. It would be good to use something that's likely to endure over the years.
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Kuudere Robo Waifu Simulator: https://youtu.be/qQhQCT31heQ[Embed] Not necessarily a good game, but maybe to the liking of some here.
>>12854 I got the ending where you get to have both as GF >:)
Still trying to slog my way through Serial Experiments Lain, might skip that tonight and finally watch the Big O. Wikipedia spoiled it for me, but I think it would still be worth it for the depiction of a Dorothy type waifu, for what it's worth. Still better than watching globohomo shit like Doom Patrol : / posting dyson sphere art for no reason
Could lain be considered a “robowaifu”? She is basically a sentient ai without a shell by the end of the Lain anime and even goes so far as to destroy a robot shell she made absolutely no reason. The series weird design was made to be open to interpretation from every viewer so there is no coherent canon plot besides the characters and the wired merging with real life.
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>>13124 Yes, Lain is an AI waifu created by God. She's also a young girl suffering from psychosis. That robot she built was a copy of her father in a different timeline when her father died and she felt so alone because she was a socially awkward loner with mental issues who only had her psychiatrist and father truly try to understand her. She destroyed the robot after realizing her robot can't fix her. The Lain PS1 game explains a lot but also makes things more confusing. Lain would make a great waifu.
>>13124 Yeah she's more of a virtual waifu, but tbh I don't feel any waifu-appeal toward this one. Dorothy on the other hand has her moments of being adorable af. Already at Ep 14 where things start getting weird. >>13125 interesting, I might still watch it though. It's a crude 1990's depiction of the internet (present day present time) but I can suspend disbelief enough to get into it for a while
>>13125 Yeah the “librarian” metastable Ps1 menu lain would make a great waifu. Doesnt kill anyone like the other timelines with the rampant wired lain. Maybe most sufficiently sentient robowaifus would go through a phase like this as well after a point. >>13126 Its still funny how her entire personality and memories are bound to a single dvd and if its gone, then shes gone. Theres no reason for an android that advanced, theres no system memory onboard the body to restore a backup. Its the one thing that bothered the hell out of me and is a major design flaw. Even the lowest spec computers have some kind of restore point program.
>>13125 I like the personality that metastable lain has the most where the somehow falls over when doing rock paper scissors at times. Its cute and she gives off a superior cortana vibe. Especially with the basic hub menu of the ps1 game. Some people even ported the ps1 game to a site and subtitled all the audiologs with customizable controls. Though its still interesting ai can be described as the “soul” of a robowaifu. Without it, you are left with an empty husk and any medium used to transfer the ai could be considered a “soul gem” of sorts. Kindve like chii at the beginning of chobits.

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