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/robowaifu/meta-3: Spring Blossom Tree Chobitsu Board owner 02/11/2021 (Thu) 12:06:37 No.8492
/meta & QTDDTOT Note: New version of /robowaifu/ JSON archives available 210504 https://files.catbox.moe/zbgor1.7z If you use Waifusearch, just extract this into your 'all_jsons' directory for the program, then quit (q) and restart. -The TITS thread #1 is now unlocked and open for business (>>9709). -previous /meta: >>38 >>3108 -Library thread (good for locating topics/terms): >>7143 >note: there's also a searching tool coded right here for /robowaifu/ that provides crosslinks straight to posts on the board. it's named waifusearch, and the link to the software is provided inside the Library thread's OP. -Latest version of BUMP v0.2e >>8769 >=== -expand /meta OP content -add BUMP xlink -rm file issues msg -add 1wk extension msg -add 'final comments' notice -rm council notices -add council decision notice -add TITS thread notification -add JSON archives link
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>>9787 >The alternative is that guys might start to go on dates, maybe trying dating apps, just because they can't have a nice chat with their robot. >Which was the reason I came up with this topic, in the first place. By 'go on dates', I presume you are referring to engaging in a TITS session with a remote thot via their robowaifu Anon? Maybe you mean Long-distance relationship (LDR) instead? It's not entirely clear that you weren't referring to other kinds of 'dating' . >Well, not completely random, but anonymous or pseudonymous. >The woman should not have some avatar personality I think this is an important concept about the lack of personality. Obviously that seems entirely contrary to our ingrained consoomer mentality, but see the next point for clarification why this is the right choice. >however, getting rated might be necessary and then also having a bit experience with some customers >to contribute to the robots responses within the robowaifus personality. I certainly can see how some kind of 'rating system' would be needed for the thots themselves for QA (we must earnestly resist any attempt whatsoever being forced into this rating mechanism going the other way, however). But I don't see how that approach actually plays too well with the 'commodification of the thots as a resource' -- at least if that rating is somehow visible to the anons looking for a TITS 'partner' for the moment. If you make the scores visible, then (especially for normalcattle) the temptation will always be 'go for the best one!', and so the ongoing, eternal, rat-race between the sexes continues ... just in a different guise this time. No, the thots themselves must truly be an interchangeable, quickly-replaceable commodity that serves only in narrowly-defined roles and behaviors. Ones that -- by definition -- can be adequately filled by any of them. >=== -add 'right choice' sentence
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>>9788 >Women have an in-group bias and they tend to unite (or in this case unionize) against men (the ones who'd be leading the project) Very true. >who naturally also have an out-group bias Also true. >There already have been successful attempts made by feminists to subvert our plans from within the infrastructure of private companies ??? Can you clarify that a little for us Anon? I'm unaware of any companies even attempting what we are here -- apart from RealDolls, and they are going for the consoomer normalcattle market, not ours (namely, literally every man on earth). But still, if you can clarify this it would be appreciated. >and they'll keep demanding more power and inclusion in the machines It would be absolute folly on our parts not to both see this coming in advance and to prepare against it. >It's fundamental for our interests that women do not have any say in the project whatsoever and that starts with not giving them jobs. I take it you are fundamentally opposed entirely to the for-profit notion of TITS Robowaifus then? LDR may be an alternative approach instead, how do you feel about that idea Anon? >This idea of letting women in is the equivalent of playing with the plague, with the difference that there is no cure nor treatment and the prevention methods always tend to fail. Haha, very creative wording. This could be in some ad-copy somewhere I think. :^) >Let's also not forget the nature of robowaifus: they must be open source, >we should try to make a kit of open-source parts that we can use to build our waifus This is absolutely crucial to the entire notion of socially-responsible robowaifuism ofc. Anything less will simply be a perpetuation of the (current, but soon-to-be-far-far-worse) globohomo Big Tech/Gov police state/asylum. >Why should we try to support a company in making robowaifus? >They'd probably try to get some of their own OPSEC in as fast as possible >which means privatizing research and making things closed-source No doubt they in fact will. This TITS-type industry will happen whether /robowaifu/ participates in it or not. I'm quite convinced of this after just a week or so's study (our years of preparation helped with that of course). Having an open, permissive license to our work will enable corpos to exploit our ideas, true. But the fundamental -- absolutely key -- point is that anyone, literally any man in the world whoever or wherever they are, can also do so. And as we've seen with the great example of Blender over the past year or so, once free gets good enough it always wins. We will win this race Anon, I'm convinced of it. >What we need to do is to instead invest and/or develop with companies that have singular and different purposes from which we can then build up to a robowaifu kit. We're working on it Anon. TITS or not, we're working on it! >=== -prose edits
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>>9797 >Some additional point. Think about the idea of "Normalization". >Imagine getting some women, which are in along range relationship, to agree to their boyfriends having a robot or doll >which they can use together for intercourse, while not at the same place Yes, I think LDR may turn out to be the killer-app here OP. >The woman could write texts or send audio I'm very cautious about the idea of giving 3DPD free-form access into TITS Robowaifus. The problem-space explodes exponentially when you introduce that. I'm much more comfortable with your basic idea of pre-canned actions. They can always talk across their goyphones while they're 'doing it'. >however people would be less opposed to such devices Very undoubtedly. Again, killer-app. >that more people being interested in parts of the technology might support some development. Unquestionably. >Not that they need to come here to the board, Anyone is entirely welcome to come here as far as I'm concerned Anon. >but they would still work with it and might make the results public. We literally couldn't hold all the things the amount of hate-press-hit-pieces that would inundate the technology. BTW, this whole scenario is going to happen whether we here on /robowaifu/ get involved or not. At the very least we can enjoy popcorn while watching the neolibs have repeated melt-downs over it all! >Job contracts or paying them are two different things. I think I get that, but perhaps you better spell this out more clearly OP? >The idea presented here can be done much more decentralized and with free software. It had better be. Else it will not only be useless for our purposes here on /robowaifu/ , but flat contrary to men's rights globally. This is entirely self-evident given these evil globohomo corpo's current behaviors. >To me the goal is to keep it possible for individuals to do it on their own, have small companies which do some work for such persons, have small companies compete with each other building their own full robowaifu versions Absolutely. On all points. >hopefully also companies specializing in parts which can be bought. Yep, even the robowaifu aftermarket industry will be vibrant, should we here win this race ahead of us all.
>>9954 It's not a good time to buy GPUs. My $400 card I bought 2 years ago is now selling for over $1000, used. If someone absolutely wants one though, save up for one with at least 12 GB if you can. 6 GB can do a lot and make do, especially with gradient checkpointing, but if you're trying to do any serious work it's too limiting.
>>10022 Hopefully this faked 'shortage' will actually drive gamers and AI researchers to all do what a AI-researcher here on the board is doing. Namely, devising data processing approaches that makes things run well enough on toasters instead (>>9951).
>>9992 >>...and we need to do a lot of things involved anyways. >TITS Robowaifus certainly amps up the concept 'a lot of things' by quite a bit. Technically it's one more source of input. Building the market for selecting and managing them might be the biggest challenge. >how would the TITS thot's work schedules and sessions be allotted to them properly? The connections to an anon's TITS Robowaifus made? This is something which really needs more investigation, thinking and discussion. Yeah, the simple way would be guys hiring the women themselves, with some ad somewhere. But I think we'll need some decentralized database with ratings. If one customer is awake and at home, the system at home would hire a remote woman by using that database. Maybe a little bit of the money could be used for headhunters, which go to online job markets and hire some new ones. >>9998 With dates, I meant regular dates. Without TITS, men might go on regular dates. Like SophieAnon decided to consider. Which is his business and decision alone. However, it shows that the development of AI might be going too slow. >>10007 >basic idea of pre-canned actions. They can always talk across their goyphones while they're 'doing it'. I never saw these pre-canned actions as something sperate from chat or voice. Voice inside the waifu doesn't give them more access to the system. It's just a matter of using it with a remote GF or hooker with voice, or using text mixed into the responses from AI and making the women behind more exchangeable. >>10024 >Fake GPU shortage How do you know it's fake? Who else is making that claim? >>9957 Maybe a thread on tools which are not covered by other threads. SBCs have a thread, so do alternative CPUs, workstations to work with are tools, 3D printers have a thread of their own, rotary tools don't, and questions about electric screwdrivers go where? Well maybe it fits in engineering general?
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>>10033 >Well maybe it fits in engineering general? Can you spell out explicitly what you mean by the word it? What exactly is 'it', Anon? >inb4 'It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.'
>>10034 Discussing tools in general, even PC workstations, in the thread "engineering general", or a new thread for all tools which don't have a thread on their own?
>>9712 it isn't even a robowaifu then, it's just a remote controlled puppet with the personality of the operator, not one of its own. If you want to interact with a human woman then interact with a human woman.
>>10036 I agree. A major reason that I like robowaifus is that they aren't human or even biological. Humanoid in shape, maybe. But their body and "mind" are both completely different to ours . For me, a mechanical robowaifu operated by her own programs and A.I is the ultimate goal...even if she's not as fast or flexible as humans, and her programming makes her say strange things. As long as her output isn't just complete nonsense, I think it adds a layer of eccentricity...quirkiness.
>>10036 >isn't even a robowaifu then The underlying technology would be the same, except some additional software. >personality of the operator, not one of its own This would depend on the use case: - Long distance relationship (LDR) - Sexworkers with voice pass through - Mind contributor which adds own thoughts to the system, which also runs on some rudimentary AI The last two would also play roles, not share their true personality. In the first case this might be true as well, but that's another story. All of the cases would help to normalize the technology and get some responsive system earlier.
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>>10037 Someone made a post on 4chin asking why people prefer robogirls over cyborgs and it made me realize I don't care about interacting with women. As soon as the limbic system is attached the whole appeal is lost for me. Robowaifu will be selfless, graceful and beautiful. They're not in it for money. They're not going to turn on you and say mean shit because it's their last day working or they're having a bad day. And the mistakes a machine does make aren't because of any ulterior motives or a lack of attention. There's a certain innocence to them that no woman could emulate without being a professional actor. It's that purity that untangles my life instead of making it more complicated and it will only continue to improve as the technology gets better.
>>9653 >One more thought on this: Many people already had the idea of teleoperated robots. This might also be worth considering. I suppose this could be considered the point this conversation actually began after all. Not that we haven't discussed teleoperation issues for years here on /robowaifu/, yet your catchy 'headline' about TITS really coined the idea in a clearly different way. >Before we have some kind of AI, we could use an alternative approach: A few hired women could have access to a chat system. The basic point about 'Before we have [effective, conversational] AI' is a fundamental point. ATM we simply have no practical way to do this. D*sney at the least has been doing 'teleoperation' for decades -- obviously long before AI could even be considered in any practical way -- and this same point was true for them. To wit, Humans, even dishonest female humans, are, well, human. Since this yearning for human-like interaction is one of the basic tenets of desiring a robowaifu (for most of us here at least), then this issue certainly isn't a casual, incidental one. Again, it's fundamental. Otherwise, why not simply become an ascetic monk and literally live the desert hermitage lifestyle away from practically all soulish contact apart from God & the animals? The very fact that a literal human mind is 'on the other end of the wire' is an important point. Someday, we may have absolutely effective Turing Test-capable AIs, but I don't that day is today. ATM, a TITS Robowaifu seems likely to be the only effective robowaifu-based approach to this issue of the desire 'human-connectedness'. >The robowaifu would only transfer answers via text, including text that describes what she can see. This could involve emotions in form of facial expressions as well. The technical/social aspects of what would be needed for an effective & safe system are far from being determined at this point. >They wouldn't necessarily know the real identity of the person on the other end. Well, if it's a remote TITS thot (as opposed to anon's GF) on the other end, they damned well better not know the real identity of the Anon. It's irrelevant to us about the reciprocal of that, but that's unlikely to be a safe situation, either. >>9654 >If you wanted to devise some system where they respond to your 'chat system' with pre-canned scripts and then stored that for AI processing offline, then that might be one thing. Some sort of automated, reduced-capacity control mechanism for the TITS thots to use would be important to solve. >>9656 >But it's still a big nope about allowing a v-thot (or worse) inside our robowaifus, into our very homes... Safety & privacy of Anon will be absolutely crucial. I'm far from certain it can be pulled off effectively at this stage. >>9791 >interesting idea and perhaps a bridge to these techs, since a tele-waifu could be used to maintain LDRs for normies. Yes, LDRs might be a key to success here. >However, yeah, the 3d menace is actually what we are trying to avoid vis-a-vis this concept. Can you tell me sort of the depths of that conviction Anon? Is it more a deep, philosophical viewpoint? Or is it rather a basic concern over the inherent deception of all women, and the many threats and issues that poses to an anon using a TITS Robowaifu system? Something else? Any further insights you could give us about your view would be helpful, thanks.
>>9812 >>significantly broadens the scope of our basic original mission here >As OP of the TITS thread I already disagree here. Casually-speaking, I'm wondering if you've come around a bit more to our view on this in the interim since you originally posted this? Just curious. >I still don't get the emotions about it. The causes for 'the emotions about it' are many, varied, and often highly nuanced. I'm guessing that's becoming more apparent to the anons here. Life & Limb could concisely coin my chief concerns in the matter. Other issues are of less significance to myself, personally-speaking. >If they can only send text with some emojis, and the robot itself checks for persons and other stuff, then they can't do anything malicious. I consider the interaction model to still very much be up in the air here. Just for starters, I don't think it's going to be quite as simplistic as all that regarding the TITS thot's proper usage of the system. It's a more complicated problem to solve than it might appear on it's surface. Also, there are a plethora of other technical, safety, & security issues quite apart from the thots that would also need effective, provable, solutions. Networking security and intrusion prevention, for example, are just a couple on the long list. Some of these are intrinsic, basic needs for robowaifus period (force-control, Asimov's Laws-type concerns, etc), so there is some degree of overlap there already. >For the IP, using Tor. Ideally only sending texts, even for objects which are detected. Tor & VPN networking tech may prove essential in the end. >Though this would also create some limits what the woman could see, when she should see it. I consider that artifact a net positive, though I'm unclear exactly whether you do? >How? And why isn't this a problem with any external service? Indeed it is. You seem to be suggesting that since it's commonplace, that it's somehow irrelevant? Obviously that's not the case, so perhaps I'm misunderstanding your basic point here? I already addressed the issue of time and complete solutions here: >>9908 >Idk, example please? "ANON! THEY KNOW!111 PLEASE SEND US$5000 NOW OR THEY'LL KILL ME! HELP ME PLEEEEEASE!111" Anon, have you really never been around a woman before? That kind of deceptive shit it built right in to them. There are literally a million and one other kinds of evil schemes the TITS thots could try to foist on unsuspecting, unguarded, naive anons who just want to chat with and bonk their robowaifus. Some of these schemes would actually be fatal to him. I thought we've talked here on the board already, about the lying, scheming Snake who is actively, constantly, and effectively deceiving women the world over? :^) >=== -add 'complete solutions' crosslink -prose edits
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>>9826 >A system of it's own, vs something where the thinking happens to a huge extend outside Even a fully-autonomous mobile gynoid companion, aka a robowaifu, is still quite dependent on numerous external resources. But the TITS Robowaifu idea is quite a different degree of 'external resources dependence'. A whole other level in fact. >and some outside personality might bleed into it. Undoubtedly that will happen. I don't consider it either feasible to prevent, nor particularly desirable to do so. Having a thot who was good at her job have her personality come through during a session would be a net positive overall. The primary issue is controlling any potential damage TITS thots could wreak on Anon and his things. >Though ideally this would be limited by role playing. Though, this is outside the focus we were meant to keep, so I won't go deeper into that. Personally, I'm not so certain there's any particular 'mission' here on /robowaifu/ beyond our humorous little tagline: "Advancing robotics to a point where anime catgrill meidos in tiny miniskirts are a reality." That's it. Anything else is gravy. And, it should be quite apparent to everyone that frequents this place that simply achieving this basic goal is already a ginormous task all by itself. That's a great tagline, BTW. Kudos to the Anon who came up with it! >It's not so that I personally long for TITS. Personally, I suspect that for many men -- certainly for many Anons -- TITS Robowaifus could become completely integrated into their lifestyles, and practically overnight too. >It's just intriguing that it might be relatively easy to implement Heh. Your definition of 'relatively easy' is quite different from mine then, Anon! :^) >and compared to AI it might give us the option of reasonable conversations and interactions 10 years earlier. It absolutely could do so IMO. Accounting for the fact that 'reasonable' is quite a subjective thing. VRChat with thots, and cloud-based AI chat systems are already both things today. Unfortunately, they are also both entirely burdened with very detrimental characteristics, some of which are pure evil. This latter is mostly the result of the globohomo engulfment of the companies involved -- even the entire industries themselves. The technologies involved are fine, if immature at this stage. >If we can't get them move securely, then we have to limit it to chat. Very simple. Agreed, and not unrestricted, free-form chat either (remember privacy and security?) The only chat suitable for a TITS thot to engage in are pre-canned ones. And the reverse direction from Anon to the TITS thot would also have to be highly filtered to prevent some foolish Anon from intentionally actually trying to connect IRL to some abusive thot over in the Philippines, out of loneliness and naivete. The entire issue of the TITS thot's communications is a big mess r/n IMO. As far as whatever an Anon wants to do with his TITS Robowaifu and his GF, that's his own affair and risk ofc. My concern here -- my worry in fact -- is one of this whole notion turning into yet another pathway for men to be victimized, exploited and abused by women. We must not let that happen to the degree we can control it. At the very least not in case of the thots involved with it. If a man wants the benefit & abuse of an IRL 3DPD relationship, that's obviously entirely his own affair. None of our business. But for the poor trusting souls who somehow (consciously or otherwise) presume that simply because it's a robowaifu, that they are somehow automatically entirely safe...well, we need to take thought and action to protect them if we choose to participate in this industry. >If [robowaifus are] strong and move in dangerous ways, then this is something that needs to be solved. Actually, the stronger we can make them, the better. There are numerous reasons why this is so. But, as you correctly point out this both needs to be addressed as a potential threat, and would also be necessary regardless of TITS or not. >the main risk I could see otherwise, is that the women would know the computers they are (indirectly) connected to are robowaifus. Indeed that knowledge very much does pose a risk to Anon REALLY? IT'S A REAL SEX ROBOT!? Can I make it pick up things too? Maybe bring the john Anon a very sharp object to his throat cool drink he can enjoy too?. It would be wonderful if the fact the TITS thots are connecting remotely into a TITS Robowaifu was entirely hidden from them, but at this point I at least can't really envision a workable method to accomplish this that would still allow them to do their jobs effectively. And even if we could somehow manage that, eventually that fact would become widely known by the thots and their pimps regardless. >Basically there needs to be layers of soft- and hardware between the sensors of the waifu and the system running the chat client and sending out the messages including descriptions of the environment. This would be a very complex set of issues to solve correctly and safely. >The only cons I read about are security risks. Trust me, that set of issues alone is more than enough of a concern. There are obviously several others as well. >Those dependent on how it is implemented, >and how careful the users are. <Users <Careful Heh, as already discussed ITT, even if perfect-quality safety, security, operational, communications & hygienic protocols are all understood thoroughly by all end-users of a system as complex as this one (a very tall order indeed), it's a well-known phenomenon across basically all industries that users will eventually become lax with following them over time. It's simply human nature. Since this isn't just some normal guy typing text into some VTuber whore's chat window, but rather an autonomous functional robot actually, physically located inside Anon's house, I don't think all precautions possible on our parts is out of place. In fact I consider it an obligation on our parts if we proceed with the idea. >=== -prose edits
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>>9833 >I get the feeling that robowaifus and teleoperation/T.I.T.S will kinda develop in tandem. I do too, Anon. >The technologies are practically joined at the hip. In fact it's quite likely that focusing development specifically for TITS Robowaifus will rapidly advance the entire domain of humanoid robotics in general around the world. Seriously industrial-grade advances. In fact, I now consider this entire dynamic literally inevitable, all else being equal. This specific topic could easily be the subject of many lengthy posts on /robowaifu/ , so I'll simply leave it at that for the moment. >I mean, you can't really have robots but expect to ban powered exoskeletons. Not sure what you're implying here exactly Anon. Do you mean the discussion of TITS Robowaifus potentially being banned on /robowaifu/ itself? That's a decision (or not) on my part solely for the welfare & health of the board and it's members (same as restricting 3DPD hatred or Blackpills-R-Us). We here obviously have basically zero control of what globohomo does with it. But if it becomes entirely inescapable that (our version of) TITS Robowaifus would lead to nothing but evil and abuse of Anons in the end, then we simply should.not.go.there. That is all. >So if more people make themselves a robowaifu or general robotic companion, it's bound to happen that someone decides - "You know, this would be more fun if I could actually take control of my robot!" No doubt. I like driving cars and motorcycles too. But what we're talking about here isn't simply the technology involved, but bigger issues. >>9835 >Using different commercial services means that the market isn't fully centralized, which in turn means that the companies developing this tech will have les bargaining power. I get your point Anon. I also consider that to be an entirely healthy dynamic, in fact. As we've all seen again, again, and again ... Communist-like centralization and control inevitably leads to human suffering and evil. As clear evidence of this I'd simply offer you a single word: Globohomo. I'd think that's sufficient recrimination all by itself. >=== -minor prose edit
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>>9841 >TITS OP here, just wanted to state that I saved this site and the TITS thread. Very nice, thanks Anon! If you aren't using it already, I'd recommend you consider building our software from here called BUMP (>>8769). It can make the process pretty much automatic for you. Also, I'd just ask that if anything happens to both myself and this board, that you and others here consider using such archives to help rebuild the board elsewhere. I've given directives about this before (e.g., >>7496), so if push ever comes to shove, I hope you all can manage to keep the board going this way. >I want to state: I think there are two version which make sense: >- Dolls, or partially animated doll-like bots, which don't need to respond like a human all the time. >These dolls or sexbots would either get their system physically limited or turned of, or get stored somewhere, when not in use. Fair enough. I'd suggest though, that this is probably more a 'normalcattle' type of man's approach. I expect that once everything gets good enough with more typical design robowaifus, then the target audience -- Anons -- will practically be in a marriage relationship with their robowaifus. And one that doesn't need an off switch haha! I expect that most of us would be sad whenever their batteries needed recharging, and couldn't wait until they were back on their feet again. :^) >So these would be primarily sexbots aka lovebots. >They might still be sitting around like a doll without voice after use, >or being stored away. Again, normalcattle usage scenarios. >Since they don't have their own generated voice, or the users doesn't care about the shift, they could use the (probably altered) voice of the remote woman. <entirely open-mic for TITS thots Absolutely not, at least in the case of the TITS thots themselves. As already amply discussed ITT, giving these thots unregulated communications and control into a TITS Robowaifu is a recipe for potential disaster to the Anon himself. After all, what does it cost the whore that's involved? What does she risk? She's located at some type of console somewhere, anonymously safe, and thousands of miles away. For the Anon, however, the results could be devastating. Permanently, even. However, as mentioned ITT, what an Anon chooses to do with his own GF is his own affair ofc. >She would get paid by the session or something like that, but not being with one customer all the time. Yes, it's a good idea to prevent 'personalities' from developing among the commoditized thots. Let the VTuber simps chase after that kind of thing. >More likely to live in a place with decent infrastructure and would need to speak the same language sufficiently. That would certainly help, yes. >-The other version with is less obvious, is what I thought and talked about here mostly. >The women would not get their voice routed through to the user, but either using speech recognition (unlikely) or more likely typing their responses. >Their responses would blend into the system, without showing much of their personality. >The robowaifu system would respond on it's own, making suggestions for responses which could be selected or ideally also being altered by the remote woman. There are a wide array of possibilities in this regard Anon. I'm sure it could be worked out fairly directly to provide speech of one sort or other at the TITS Robowaifu's end. >She could also write her own responses, which would be filtered as good as possible for out of line, out of character, or malicious attempts. No, it's simply too risky. However, we definitely will need to solve filtering for Anon's communications, going the other way. (See the post above regarding foolish, naive Anons). >These women would be more likely poor and maybe even not speaking the same language as the customer (very well), but the system would translate the responses. That's actually at the same time a very difficult technical challenge (one even G*ogle isn't up to yet, for instance) and also one that is conceivably doable by our own /robowaifu/ geniuses sometime soon (>>7837). >The goal would be to have them around as much as possible to alleviate the mind of the robowaifu. This is a very complex issue, and one difficult to airily brush aside this way. Obviously, AI has a long way to go (but then again, so do 3DPD haha!) and alternatively, most Anons would have a limited budget and couldn't afford to keep a TITS thot 'on the line' indefinitely. This dynamic will improve in our favor over time of course. >So per hour they should get paid much less, but would also be supposed to work longer with one customer. Both points are clear positives for Anon, and the practical antithesis of VTuber whoredom & simpery. Personally, I like it. >=== -minor prose edit -add bump crosslink
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>>10040 Even as the OP of the TITS thread, I agree. But we seem to be a minority. I've been always rather skeptical when Sandman brought his idea up, but others seem to like it. >>10042 >>significantly broadens the scope of our basic original mission here >As OP of the TITS thread I already disagree here. Maybe to some extend. But it's still just some extra input from the outside. All the concerns are rather vague and speculative, others need to be figured out by working on it and trying the system out. Also, I don't see it as a change of our mission here, since the goal doesn't change. It's just a special use case, which might even push the technology in terms of mass production, attention, mass testing, ... I also don't see TITS as some kind of competition, especially not long term, since it will always be more expensive, messier, and less pure, for example. >Networking security and intrusion prevention Things we'll need anyways. >Tor & VPN networking tech may prove essential in the end. Yes, I don't think it would be a reasonable idea to do that without it. Rather Tor than VPNs though. >>Though this would also create some limits what the woman could see, when she should see it. >I consider that artifact a net positive, though I'm unclear exactly whether you do? I meant this to be a challenge. If the remote woman is meant to see something, the system has to detect it first, and to learn to do so first. The users might see that as a limitation. >>How? And why isn't this a problem with any external service? What I meat by that, for example: I won't try to think and discuss that through in a thread which might be gone in a few days or a week. It needs to be dealt with while something is being implemented. It's more of a general problem, not specific to the topic here. >deceptions Maybe try to write some down and find a pattern. I mean beyond the woman. Maybe the system could detect the switch in context and that the "me" is not about the imaginary character. Also, there should't be any emotional attachment anyways. It's either a voice hooker or just a cog in the machine. Then, we could also add more people to it, in that case it might not matter if it were men, which would manually check for bad behavior or what the intent of a message is. Though, that might create some extra delay. Anyways, I don't think the system needs to be secure against every hypothetical attack. They should also have an interest to keep their job, for example. There might always be a way to try something, though. >>10054 >The only chat suitable for a TITS thot to engage in are pre-canned ones Yeah, I think that's the point where I have to call it quits here. I will not go through all these lengthy texts which end in rejecting the idea here anyways. I want to focus on other things again. So don't suspect (fast) answers to more questions on that topic from OP. If I decide to implement it, or take part in it, I'll do it somewhere else, where we can focus on tech without people being scared of everything that might happen or lead to abuse.
>>10040 That's it anon! You said it better than I could! In this 'post-truth', 'zero-trust', nihilistic age where so many humans have hidden agendas...there IS a sort of purity in the logic of machines! Wow, that's motivating! Thanks a lot!
>>9870 >I've been sort of pro TITS and almost missed this discussion. But I also understand the risks. They tell me, "Better late than never!" >But I also understand the risks. Heh, I'm not sure that's even possible yet. Let me FTFY: <But I also understand a few of the risks.* >Vtubers is a huge market and will remain a major force. >TITS robots adds the extra dimension and gives us a chance to tap into that market and redirect some of the cashflow our way. Kind of disgusting, but OK perhaps true. Managing the cash flow -- indeed a business itself -- in a fashion that would actually benefit the researchers here on /robowaifu/ is an important challenge. So, for example, who exactly, is 'us' and 'our' ?? I personally haven't a clue just yet how to manage something like that in the way we would need here. >We just need to ensure that the robots aren't dependent on a "superstar voice actress" but instead on an anonymous bank of service workers. Sure, absolutely. >Poor women make excellent employees. >They rarely act up if it's a professional setting. I wouldn't at all be surprised, in this particular context. >If we hire women, why not hire bros as well? Absolutely not. This is robowaifu, not robohusbando. Literal faggotry isn't welcome or tolerated here. Nor will it be. Choosing otherwise is to intentionally invite leftists, Communism, and other deviant corruptions into our board. Eventually even the globohomo itself. I certainly wouldn't consider any such thing. In fact an anon mentioned here the notion of confirming authentic XX sex of all TITS thots applicants as a screening protocol for employment. This is a rather solid idea IMO, and one I'm entirely OK with. I presume that's clear enough related to my perspective on this topic? >Remote control and autonomy are two sides of the same coin and go hand in hand whenever we talk about robotics. Actually, I think they are more like two sides of the same universe. I can hardly imagine two concepts further apart in our context. They are, roughly speaking, the literal antithesis of each other. The only similarity they share is the 'universe' they share (aka, the robowaifu). >You actually need the remote control in case the autonomous function goes haywire True enough. But as with a number of other topics this subject touches this is external to TITS Robowaifus, but is a general need regardless. >and vice versa. Lol, you probably should clarify that one Anon. >Ideally the kill switch is local, but what if the user is disabled in some way? You don't want the robot remote control to be hosted by Globohomo Cloud, but you still need a trusted means to diagnose a remote machine and shut it down if necessary. I presume this is referring to the above point? To clarify, robowaifus are Anon's private property and his alone. They aren't 'remote machines'. And no one but her master is going to 'shut it down'. If he wants to enact some sort of 'cyanide protocol' for his robowaifu that's very definitely in the His own effing affair category, and none of ours or anyone else's. If he needs any assistance with his robowaifu then he should be able to come to us or another group for help. As with the remote control point above, this set of issues is a general consideration, and basically external to any TITS Robowaifu concerns, and will need to be solved regardless of our decision or activity on that specific topic.
>>9877 >There's no profit margin, or only a tiny one, if done correctly. >It's expensive already, and if the goal is to avoid bonding, there's no reason to pay too much. I'm no economics major, but that seems rational to me on the surface. But the one thing I am sure of here is that as a group we want to accentuate the benefits for Anon, not the thots, not the pimps, not the 'corporation' running a TITS service bureau. Let's keep that point clearly in mind, and the proper balance in all things will become evident for us. TITS Robowaifus are there to serve Anon, not the other way round. >Also, if the software is free (OS), then there will be no monopoly or oligopoly. I would add to that and just point out that the hardware needs to be relatively inexpensive as well (ie, the entire 'robowaifu kits' notion we've promoted here since the beginning). I'm sure other systems will crop up that aren't of our doing, but it we got involved, then prices would always be kept as low as feasible for every aspect. Again, the point here is to serve men, not to exploit them for money. Let the VTuber whores and simps play that game. >Otherwise, increasing profit would only work by men paying for bonding or stars, which some might call exploitation. Exactly. Heh, it's certainly not exploitation of the 3DPD, either! :^) >What? How? Why? No. I like you Anon. You should seriously consider becoming a board volunteer here.
>>9895 >Well, FOLLOW could require that the anon disappeared or is moving away. SIT would require a chair behind her. Some such things could be programmed. I see. Well, I was thinking more about the entire scenario, not the simple control mechanics involved. But yes, those are certainly both doable, and already necessary capabilities, TITS Robowaifus or not. >Some movements only if anon is on distance. Not making gestures with to much force. Not closing arms when hugging to much, not using so much force that a human couldn't resist Yes, as mentioned ITT, safety & security protocols are a general issue. >Ahm, not really. Depends what you mean by permanent. While AI progresses it should shrink again. I see. Hmm, seems to me this will be an industry pretty hard to just 'turn off', unless the AI becomes particularly superlative in relatively short order. Certainly a long-shot IMO.
>>9914 >So it begins... :^) >>9921 The globalists are very definitely going to move into this arena just as soon as they possibly can. >>10033 >Technically it's [just] one more source of input. Honestly, I consider that sentiment rather a large leap at the moment OP. This would be a significant maze of challenging issues to solve. >Building the market for selecting and managing them might be the biggest challenge. Than actually conceiving, designing, prototyping, programming, debugging, manufacturing, & assembling robowaifus? From scratch? I hardly think so. Business is business, and this entire idea isn't a whole lot different of a business model fundamentally than the already successful VThot industry -- at least on the thot's end of things. But building great robowaifus will take real genius, perseverance, and hard work. It won't come easily or cheaply. >This is something which really needs more investigation, thinking and discussion. >Yeah, the simple way would be guys hiring the women themselves, with some ad somewhere. I'm sure the thots and pimps would sort themselves out quite effectively with few issues. The business/networking systems and infrastructure will take more development. >But I think we'll need some decentralized database with ratings. Again, the business technical needs will take some basic skills and money to sort out. >With dates, I meant regular dates. >Without TITS, men might go on regular dates. Like SophieAnon decided to consider. Ahh, I see. Well, that's obviously pretty much outside any considerations for a TITS Robowaifu system unless Anon later decides to plug his GF into one. >However, it shows that the development of AI might be going too slow. I don't know. AI potential seems to be on at least an exponential curve to me Anon. >I never saw these pre-canned actions as something sperate from chat or voice. >Voice inside the waifu doesn't give them more access to the system. Sure, it's always understood that Anon will experience his robowaifu's synthesized voice on his end, TITS or not. >It's just a matter of using it with a remote GF or hooker with voice, or using text mixed into the responses from AI and making the women behind more exchangeable. Again, as long as the thot's voice isn't simply 'open-mic' of course.
>>10036 >it isn't even a robowaifu then, it's just a remote controlled puppet with the personality of the operator, not one of its own. >If you want to interact with a human woman then interact with a human woman. Both fair points Anon. While I have little debate with your points I think most Anons here wouldn't choose that approach. But yes, good points. >>10037 >I agree. A major reason that I like robowaifus is that they aren't human or even biological. Humanoid in shape, maybe. But their body and "mind" are both completely different to ours . For me, a mechanical robowaifu operated by her own programs and A.I is the ultimate goal...even if she's not as fast or flexible as humans, and her programming makes her say strange things. As long as her output isn't just complete nonsense, I think it adds a layer of eccentricity...quirkiness. I agree that's a rather endearing aspect of many of the Chinese cartoon documentaries I've seen on this topic. :^) Obviously, TITS Robowaifus (whether our own or not) are really only going to be for men who are comfortable(-ish) with a 3DPD being anywhere in the loop at all. The rest of us will obviously want to go down the other path for robowaifus. Considering the merits, both pro and con, are what this council is all about. >>10038 >The underlying technology would be the same, except some additional software. Rather more than that, I believe Anon. >This would depend on the use case: >- Long distance relationship (LDR) >- Sexworkers with without voice pass through (FTFY) >- Mind contributor which adds own thoughts to the system, which also runs on some rudimentary AI I think the LDR may be the key in the end. It brings a much-reduced set of the issues involved with thots, and is in fact practically a guaranteed successful business model (aka, no business model at all). The Anon can just assemble his own TITS thot gear, and then plug his GF into it. >All of the cases would help to normalize the technology and get some responsive system earlier. I'd say that's definitely true, in pretty much any reasonably-conceivable outcome to all this. >>10040 >Someone made a post on 4chin asking why people prefer robogirls over cyborgs and it made me realize I don't care about interacting with women. As soon as the limbic system is attached the whole appeal is lost for me. Robowaifu will be selfless, graceful and beautiful. They're not in it for money. They're not going to turn on you and say mean shit because it's their last day working or they're having a bad day. And the mistakes a machine does make aren't because of any ulterior motives or a lack of attention. There's a certain innocence to them that no woman could emulate without being a professional actor. It's that purity that untangles my life instead of making it more complicated and it will only continue to improve as the technology gets better. It is a beautiful thing Anon, and you've worded that quite well. I have little to add except... I'm stealing that Chii! :^) >>10063 >That's it anon! You said it better than I could! In this 'post-truth', 'zero-trust', nihilistic age where so many humans have hidden agendas...there IS a sort of purity in the logic of machines! Wow, that's motivating! Thanks a lot! Seconded. >=== -add cartoon documentaries bad joke
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>>10061 >Even as the OP of the TITS thread, I agree. Wait... I am quite confused now, OP. >All the concerns are rather vague and speculative, others need to be figured out by working on it and trying the system out. Actually, I would consider immediate potential threats to life & limb, the possibility of network intrusion and usurpation/hijacking (surreptitiously or not), social-engineering type scams, and the high probability of bad OPSEC on the part of the average Anon to hardly be in the category 'rather vague and speculative', Anon. But you are certainly correct that the need to plan, engineer, and test a TITS Robowaifu system would be necessary to figure things out. And iteratively as well, at least for a while. >Also, I don't see it as a change of our mission here, since the goal doesn't change. It's just a special use case, which might even push the technology in terms of mass production, attention, mass testing, ... I also don't see TITS as some kind of competition, especially not long term, since it will always be more expensive, messier, and less pure, for example. All fair points in my opinion Anon. Not much debate from me there, with the possible exception taken to your use of the word just in this regard. >Things we'll need anyways. Yes, as with several others, it's already a basic robowaifu issue. >Yes, I don't think it would be a reasonable idea to do that without it. Rather Tor than VPNs though. I'd say that would be a TBD item on the checklist. Certainly it wouldn't pass muster without extensive pen testing, etc. >I meant this to be a challenge. If the remote woman is meant to see something, the system has to detect it first, and to learn to do so first. OK, fair enough. Virtual re-construction on-the-fly is pretty much feasible today in a simplified context. >The users might see that as a limitation. Undoubtedly. They'll just have to understand that safety & security comes first whenever a thot is in the mix. Anon and his GF would be rather a different stripe on things. >Maybe try to write some down and find a pattern. I mean beyond the woman. Maybe the system could detect the switch in context and that the "me" is not about the imaginary character. Not exactly an easy problem to solve, but one that's at least conceivable for an AI to tackle successfully reasonably soon. >Then, we could also add more people to it, in that case it might not matter if it were men, Lol, what? Are you suggesting along with the other Anon that sodomites men be involved at the operator end of a TITS connection? I've made my position rather clear on that already, Anon (>>10064). Absolutely not. >which would manually check for bad behavior or what the intent of a message is. Though, that might create some extra delay. That is a technical issue that would have to be resolved, yes. >Anyways, I don't think the system needs to be secure against every hypothetical attack. Obviously, that's a physical impossibility. Security 101. >They should also have an interest to keep their job, for example. Any means that keeps TITS thots in their places and doing their jobs properly will certainly be in their pimp's best interests, yes. >Yeah, I think that's the point where I have to call it quits here Fair enough, I understand. >where we can focus on tech without people being scared of everything that might happen or lead to abuse. I can assure you OP, the word isn't 'fear'. I'd suggest wisdom, accountability, and responsibility are probably better choices. >=== -minor prose edit
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And with that, I believe I've cleared the current backlog for this council, /robowaifu/. If I've accidentally overlooked anyone here, please forgive me and point it out to me. I'll adjust the OP to request all final comments before this coming Sunday night's deadline. Cheers /robowaifu/.
Quick question, though it will probably to late when I'll have the answer: If I buy a cheap workstation without a grafics card, should I take Intel or AMD Ryzen CPU if I want to make some small ML models? I think AMD doesn't work at all for that, but well the CPU would be 25-30% faster. Context: I'll build another one on Intel based old server CPU soon, and plan buy another Ryzen gaming/ML rig at some point (after the shortage).
Hey guys, /icup/ here with a question on how we're going to handle the next iteration of the Infinity Cup ( https://anon.cafe/icup/ ) We're trying to poll whether certain boards are interested in playing in the cup, or if there's some specific team that you'd like to see play. If you want to, please answer or add your own answer to the poll in https ://poal.me/6x3j1u
>>9954 >However, typical pre-programmed schedules for fan speeds are badly designed for deep learning programs, so that this temperature threshold is reached within seconds after starting a deep learning program. The result is a decreased performance (0-10%) which can be significant for multiple GPUs (10-25%) where the GPU heat up each other. >Since NVIDIA GPUs are first and foremost gaming GPUs, they are optimized for Windows. You can change the fan schedule with a few clicks in Windows, but not so in Linux, and as most deep learning libraries are written for Linux this is a problem. >The only option under Linux is to use to set a configuration for your Xorg server (Ubuntu) where you set the option “coolbits”. This works very well for a single GPU, but if you have multiple GPUs where some of them are headless, i.e. they have no monitor attached to them, you have to emulate a monitor which is hard and hacky. https://timdettmers.com/2018/12/16/deep-learning-hardware-guide/#Air_Cooling_GPUs
>>10076 If you're purchasing a CPU for ML you'll get a significant speed up with more cores and threads. The brand of CPU doesn't matter. https://jdhao.github.io/2020/07/06/pytorch_set_num_threads/ The RAM you use is usually the cheapest way to improve performance. If you have multiple computers though, it's possible to use them for training the same model. https://pytorch.org/tutorials/intermediate/dist_tuto.html AMD GPUs haven't had any support until recently. Popular deep learning libraries only fully support Nvidia, although PyTorch recently launched a beta for AMD ROCm. Other machine learning libraries like mlpack support AMD GPUs via OpenCL and AMDGPU-PRO. AMDGPU-PRO appears to be significantly faster than AMD ROCm in vRAM copy and read performance which is pretty essential for deep learning. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rocm-20-pal1850&num=2
>>10088 Thanks, I'm not sure, but from what I gathered the brand of the CPU only doesn't matter if there's a GPU (which should be Nvidia). I tried to find out if it matters if I only have a CPU and run small models, which seems to be used for modeling before running it in some cloud service. Also in the linked example it speeds up four times whe using eight threads. However, now I'm having my eyes on used PCs with grafic cards. Just have to make sure they're still supported (RX 16xx and such).
>>10081 >>10083 >>10088 Thanks for the good information Anon[s].
>>10088 >>10089 >Also in the linked example it speeds up four times whe using eight threads. Ah, sorry. I've read your text wrong, while tired. I read the number of cores doesn't matter, the opposite of what you wrote.
TalkToWaifu Github repository is ded, is there any alternatives?
>>10149 Look in the chat section >>22. Something similar seems to be worked on there. Also, the thread on that topic is here >>7978.
OK, I'll consider our discussion on the topic closed now. Thanks very much to everyone who participated in it. You have all given me enough information to come to what I believe is a good conclusion for the board's benefit.. Give me a day or two, and I'll do basic writeup on my decision.
Alright, we've all waited long enough about this topic. First off, there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus on the idea of TITS Robowaifus. Not really a surprise actually, since the general idea itself is pretty controversial. Obviously, the OP of the thread is in favor as well as some others. Several Anons are not favorable to the idea however. So, I guess any decision is going to be, again, controversial. I'd just ask everyone to remember why we're here and not to be offended about it, either way. Let's stay in concordance with each other here, /robowaifu/. In the end, the things themselves tend to naturally correct and get back on course, as long as good men work together in unity. >--- Rather than dragging everyone through the tedious process of me making an attempt at a full review of every pertinent comment made, I'll simply try to break down what I see as being the chief pros and cons -- which is what this council was all about after all. (Please correct me if you see I've accidentally overlooked your favorite concern & I'll likely update this post). -Pros -This technology clearly has the strong potential to rapidly advance Robowaifu development in general. The challenges of effectively integrating haptics, synthetic character & environment visualization, teleoperations, and the various AI/ML facilities that would all be needed for an effective, safe solution would together serve as a dramatic impetus for overall advancement of robowaifu technology & design. -TITS Robowaifus could truly help facilitate effective LDR (Long-distance relationships). For the men who want to maintain relationships with IRL females, this notion would open up a whole new potential realm for their relationships. -Greed (if that can possibly be called a 'pro'). The bottom line: There's a lot of cash that will be made by utilizing thots around the world as 'sit-ins' for men's Robo-GFs. It's been a very well-known phenomenon that (put simply and crudely) sex sells. I'd recommend everyone watch the initial few minutes of Bob Cringely's Triumph of the Nerds PBS special for his take on this notion. -Cons -In a word: women. It's literally tempting for me to leave this entire section at that one word alone. Simply put, basically every single difficulty related to the notion of TITS Robowaifus is related (either directly or indirectly) in one way or other to the women who would be involved in the project's daily operations. Without doubt there are some bad men out there who could be an evil influence too, but without the women who are involved these men would mostly go elsewhere. -Direct hazards to Anon. Whether it's something as simple as an Anon intentionally doxing himself to some thot, a social-engineering-esque embezzlement scheme intended to rob him blind, or actual physical harm done to him (intentionally or not), Anon takes his fortunes into his own hands with any such system as a TITS Robowaifu. -Revulsion. A common complaint was the distasteful, repellent aspect of having an IRL female involved in the mix in the first place. While /robowaifu/ is very definitely not an MGTOW enclave, it's entirely understandable that many Anons would object at a fundamental level to this issue. The protagonist Hideki in the anime series Chobits dealt with this exact dichotomy and conflict (though I would suggest his entire take on it was quite different). >--- Trying to balance all this out and make a 'good' decision is, as you might imagine, difficult for me in any natural sense. However, I think that the majority of you honestly believe that I care deeply for both the welfare of the board itself, the effective creation of robowaifus around the world, and the benefit to, and protection of, men around the world through robowaifu-related efforts. I hope therefore that, again, Anons not get offended with me or with each other, and let us all work together in unity. >(1 of 2) >=== -minor prose edit
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>>10194 My decision for the board is in the AFFIRMATIVE, with two straightforward caveats: 1. Absolutely no free-form, 'open-mic', unconstrained, verbal or physical control by TITS thots of any TITS Robowaifus themselves. The most problematic issues with the whole idea all stem directly from failing to enforce this basic rule. Also, the intricacies of pulling off implementing these restraints correctly, and still allowing for an appealing, effective, and fun engagement for the Anon himself is actually quite a dramatic challenge & achievement. Solving all this will advance many different robowaifu-related areas all together at once. 2. Men will be free to turn off 'safetys' if they desire to plug their IRL GFs into the remote-end of a TITS connection. They are taking their own lives in their hands with such a risk, and they will be clearly informed of that. Note that this is a privately-conducted connection between Anon and his GFs, and isn't in any way associated with any business-oriented systems utilizing professional prostitutes (whether they are labeled as such or not). Basic safetys are not to be disabled in that context whatsoever. As a board-related point, the TITS threads will be considered as 'containment threads', and apart from this council, any further discussion on the topic is to be conducted strictly inside TITS threads. That way, hopefully any Anons who are fundamentally disgusted by the entire concept can simply hide the thread itself, and otherwise continue to have warm relations with the other Anons here. Crossposts linking into the threads from elsewhere are perfectly acceptable, but please keep in mind that some Anons are going to be offended by TITS thots. Please don't 'promote' the idea outside the threads themselves, thank you. I'll leave the TITS thread itself locked for the moment, as I prepare a rewrite of the OP intended to clearly spell out the objective and restraints of our, /robowaifu/-flavored, TITS Robowaifu project. As my final thought for this council; In the end, I now believe it's actually much better for us to be involved that not to be. If we fail to become involved, if we look the other way, then I think it's entirely likely that there won't be a single important voice defending the men themselves in regard to this industry. And that outcome would simply be more of the same evil abuse currently being heaped on all of us by the globohomo. This industry will happen with or without us regardless. I believe we can make a positive difference for good in it, if we simply focus on doing so. >--- Thanks again to everyone who decided to participate in this discussion. I learned a lot from it, and I think this whole thing can help each of us to rapidly advance our own robowaifu R&D. Cheers /robowaifu/. You're a remarkable group of Anons! >(2 of 2) >=== -prose edits
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>>10210 Nice subtle piece of work Anon, point taken. I have a few copies of that one myself. However, if you're at all a regular here then I doubt you think I'm some kind of milquetoast pushover for invaders & corrupters here. Being polite to our enemies isn't even one of my faults. Heh, I'm quite ready to call out even friends on their behavior here if I feel it's harming the group overall -- as any sane and rational man would do. They'll all come back to their senses eventually, I believe. In that little fable of yours, the founder's basic error was failure to promptly force the commie usurpers into their proper isolation/quarantine camps. Namely shitposting-containment zones. One of the things neoLibs, glowniggers, goons, et al, all crave and demand is attention. Pull the soapboxes away and their corrupting influence just seems to magically disappear somehow. Honestly, it doesn't really take much wisdom to manage a thing like this place effectively -- just a little diligence, pluck, and cheek. :^)
Price of storage might go up next, though it's not sure to happen and might take a bit: https://youtu.be/np8rgXSdYMM - It's more than a rumor though, since there's a new cryoto currency targeting storage.
>"...We are sitting here watching, in real time, women being stripped of all of their most basic value by trannies and soon by robots and artificial womb technology. " Anglin I know you're lurking here. Why don't you give robowaifus your treatment. I doubt you'd have a positive outlook on it all, but I'd still be interested to read what you have to say.
>>10312 >"...I guess the upside of the tranny revolution is that they are going to be thinner and better looking than women, and thereby force women to compete. Maybe we’ll see a renaissance of femininity in women?" I know you're here Andrew Do a robowaifu revolution hitpiece.
>>10151 >Updated version is still using GPT-2 fugg
>>10326 The team running GPT-3 has chosen not to release that 'open-source' system "to protect the public". But somehow, (((strangely enough))), has managed to take everyone's work into it and monetize that instead. > As I understand it, there are other, non-Globohomo Big Tech/Gov efforts that have sprung up to combat this abuse, and are endeavoring to create effective alternatives.
>>10329 I read from other pages and some have mentioned that GPT-3 requires a NASA super computer to run including multiple GPU to make the performance acceptable, looks like its not such a good option then welp. >As I understand it, there are other, non-Globohomo Big Tech/Gov efforts that have sprung up to combat this abuse, and are endeavoring to create effective alternatives. What are those?
>>10326 >>10330 Correct, GPT-3 needs a whole server farm. Some anon here tries to build something smaller. But, keep in mind these are text generators anyways. It makes sense to feed all data into them, to anticipate what someone might say in response to something. Using it to have some vaguely specific output, requires to select the data going into the training. The responses coming out would still not make much sense, necessarily. We have two treads for those topics, btw: >>22 >>250 - Maybe we should go on there, though I think this also has been discussed already.
>>10329 There's GPT-Neo now that claims to outperform GPT-2: https://github.com/EleutherAI/gpt-neo It's basically a smaller version of GPT-3. I haven't had time to play around with it but it looks promising.
>>10332 >Maybe we should go on there, though I think this also has been discussed already. Good point Anon. I'll just pop over and leave crosslinks so researchers will see our little stub here too. >>10333 >digits confirm Neo That's encouraging Anon, thanks.

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