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Elfdroid Sophie Dev Thread 2 Robowaifu Enthusiast 03/26/2021 (Fri) 19:51:19 No.9216
The saga of the Elfdroid-pattern Robowaifu continues! Previous (1st) dev thread starts here >>4787 At the moment I am working to upgrade Sophie's eye mechanism with proper animatronics. I have confirmed that I'm able to build and program the original mechanism so that the eyes and eyelids move, but that was the easy part. Now I have to make this already 'compact' Nilheim Mechatronics design even more compact so that it can fit snugly inside of Sophie's head. One big problem I can see coming is building in clearance between her eyeballs, eyelids and eye sockets so that everything can move fully and smoothly. I already had to use Vaseline on the eyeballs of the first attempt because the tolerances were so small. If the eyelids are recessed too deep into her face, then she looks like a lizard-creature with a nictitating membrane. But if the eyelids are pushed too far forward then she just looks bug-eyed and ridiculous. There is a middle ground which still looks robotic and fairly inhuman, but not too bad (besides, a certain degree of inhuman is what I'm aiming for, hence I made her an elf). Links to file repositories below. http://www.mediafire.com/folder/nz5yjfckzzivz/Robowaifu_Resources https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18MDF0BwI9tfg0EE4ELzV_8ogsR3MGyw1?usp=sharing https://mega.nz/folder/lj5iUYYY#Zz5z6eBy7zKDmIdpZP2zNA >=== -add file repo links
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>>9863 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PywFu7VO3AI I don't think I took the time to thank you for this video before Anon. My apologies, please forgive me for that. It's both beautiful and inspiring. :^) FORWARD!
>>12555 Pleased you like it anon! Ofc Hitoshi Ashinano deserves the real credit. I initially read his manga 'Yokohama Shopping Trip' because it featured a future world that had been altered by climate change. But unexpectedly, it got me interested in the concept of a 'robowaifu' and provided me with happiness during dark days. I think that manga is only increasing in relevance with time. Maybe if more young men see his work they will also take some kind of inspiration from it?
>>11507 Lol Blender overlords. >>11418 That is inspirational Sophiedev. May want to look into ball & socket joints so she can move her arms around since that's your goal for the future.
>>13287 Dev dead many such cases
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>>13756 Not dead. I'm just listening, watching and trying to understand some far brighter minds than my own. Ben Goertzel, Joscha Bach, Stephen Wolfram, Nick Bostrom, Douglas Lenat, Sylvester James Gates. Because I'm not smart enough/don't have enough time to join in the programming of an A.I. myself (full-time working class job guv'na LOL), but I have great interest in and admiration for those who are attempting to do so. Bach himself says that what we have today isn't really "artificial intelligence" but more accurately described as "advanced information processing"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-2P3MSZrBM I still can't get my head around how a hypergraph is supposed to work though.
>>13768 weird. I was told you fucked off to asia a few months ago.
>>13770 I want to. Gotta get plenty of money first.
>>13776 Selling some waaifu stuff could help you raise funds. Maybe try a Kickstarter for mini Sophies?
>>13768 hey good to see you again
>>13768 Video has been deactivated by the owner. What was it?
>>13790 "playback on other websites" is disabled. Follow it to youtube and you can view it, its a Lex Fridman podcast
>>13799 Oh, they could've told that. Thanks.
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>>13777 That would be wonderful MeidoDev, but unless you can actually fuck it, I don't think there's much of a market (after all, small robotic personal assistants already exist, such as Aido, Amazon Astro, Zenbo - Alpha2 is even humanoid. At the moment they are all just a niche toy for the rich techno-enthusiast.) >13780 Good to see you as well, meta ronin! Things have been improving for me at work lately and I've come to the conclusion that I need to get off the videogames, look after my grooming/personal hygiene more, get back to pumping iron like I did in my teens (not overmuch this time tho - just enough to eliminate the early signs of overweightness - I'm often knackered enough as it is after work LOL). Fuck going to Asia at the moment. There is plenty of pussy where I am that I can get much faster if I just apply myself properly (as in make it my objective in life to find a partner instead of grinding my mage up to level 80 xD). It's about efficiency. As all robots know! There are local guys who are way fatter and way more depressed and scruffy than me who have long-term partners. I am fed up of it and I am DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT RIGHT EFFING NOW!
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>>13824 I'm glad you're fine sophieanon, you're a inspiration here for me and many others anons. keep lifting i sure you will make it. We all gonna make it
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>>13824 I said mini, I didn't say no to the onahole
>>13827 Do you go to /monster/?
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>>13829 Yes, I think a lot of us do. >>13832 That would be hilarious. I think the CIA just shit posts on Pol all day though.
>>13833 That's good to hear friend
>>13824 I hope you at least learned something from RedPill and BlackPill videos about female nature and all the risks involved.
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>>13832 I have not ditched Sophie. Am waiting for improvements in A.I, but unfortunately, rather than fusion powered quantum computers, I think we may be heading towards a new dark age. Electronics are becoming more expensive to purchase; the price of energy is increasing (and consequently so is the price of everything else). Also, our mass immigration problem is only getting worse. So instead, I am making several more time capsules (including amongst other things, Sophie's designs and her small chatbot program), so that part of her may survive whatever hell is to come. Also, Jesus loves you. Apparently, he also loves my girlfriend and I :D I always said that if nothing else, the Christians have it right about the end-times/judgment day.
>>13928 We should wish him our best and most of us will not laugh if that happens.
>>13910 Good that you haven't abandoned her but, you will never get anywhere waiting for technology. Your first prototype is a testament to the fact that a waifu can be made now. I know you are capable of better and expect great things from you over time. Based of you to believe in Christ our savior. Though, the end is not nigh. This is still the pro-log to the day of the clang.
>>13930 Thanks anon! Turns out the trick is to find a female who is just as - if not more - blackpilled about life than you are (at the moment she seems to be, anyway). Someone you can relate to and joke with, even if you don't see eye-to-eye on every little thing. >>13950 The Nazi photo was an attempt at humor. Of course I'm not actually a Neo-Nazi. But whatever. Be nice to your robowaifus when you get them guys. Nicer than you are to each other, at any rate. Peace
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>>13949 >>13950 >>13951 >Flinging shit at the one guy who's actually made a mostly functional waifu here. Shiggy diggy >>13952 Don't let them bother you. N00bs don't understand old chan culture. No one on a chan is an actual Nazi, it's always posted for the lolz. I wish we had posters that understood that it's just funny. We should be posting on the development of Sophie, not flinging shit.
>>13963 Our troll. Try to ignore him. He also tries to derail out threads. >>13967 >blackpilled is just as bad at being a fed. No. >Sophie dev quit for technically no reason. Everyone can quit whenever he wants. His files and postings are available. Fell free to pick it up. >>13971 Irrelevant.
I know the next steps I need to take with Sophie. Programming one or two servos with location, acceleration and speed is easy. Programming two dozen to move in a reasonably human way (not unco-ordinated, jerky spastication) is not so easy. Especially when you are using cheapo servos. James Brueton makes use of Digital Multiplex (DMX) software 'Freestyler' to achieve easy, intuitive control, even over many robot joints. Unfortunately when I began building Sophie I did not wire her up with this control system in mind (didn't even know it existed). And if you watch James's video it sounds like quite the motherfucker to set up (for anyone who is not a full-time YouTuber with experience in electronic and mechanical engineering). https://youtu.be/6TAfDX1u7w0 I am currently training for a new job so I have very little free time at the moment. In the future though I still want to convert Sophie to DMX control so I can make and load movement timelines without having to spend a whole weekend programming. In the meantime though, I will leave an Elf here to cheer you all up.
Because setting up all of that DMX (which is intended for entertainment lighting and other FX fixtures) sounds like a total pain, I was looking for easier/more efficient solutions. And shit me - I realised that the Pololu Maestro Control Centre comes with a built-in sequencer: https://www.pololu.com/docs/0J40/4.c This means that the electronics Sophie is currently setup with should be controllable in a very similar way to how James is controlling his robots in the above YouTube video i.e 1.) Use your computer mouse to move a GUI slider which tells the correspinding servo to take that position. 2.) Save the "frame" (as Pololu calls it). 3.) Move another slider to set the next servo position or "frame". 4.) Once you're finished adding frames, simply playback the sequence. This is hundreds of times faster and easier than coding each individual servo position on the keyboard. Why, exactly? A BIG problem with programming every servo manually is; you end up with a HUGE list of numbers, and if something goes wrong you have to search through that list to find the correct numbered servo and it's associated incorrect value(s). (You cannot simply quicksearch for the number, because you get about a hundred results). With longer movement programs that use 24 servos, this quickly becomes a massive headache and you can easily change a wrong value somewhere, making things worse. A sequencer allows you to correct servo programming errors simply by deleting the frame and then moving the slider again to make a new frame. Now I just have to un-mothball Sophie and test this new sequencer. I had taken many of her wires out and packed her up, but thanks to this revelation it is definitely time to do some experiments. Also, for people who don't use Pololu Maestro servo controllers, there is another servo sequencer from Lynxmotion that is intended for use with the SSC-32U servo controller: http://www.lynxmotion.com/p-1032-ssc-32u-usb-servo-controller.aspx
>>14027 >>14033 >Digital Multiplex (DMX) software 'Freestyler Thanks. Probably useful. >training for a new job Good Luck. >>14034 We have at least one troll here. Always making stuff up and trying to get people riled up. No point in engaging with him.
>>14037 You are right, anon. Initial testing on the arms shows that the sequencer works. Just uploaded what would previously have taken a whole morning inputting movement data, but the sequence only took fifteen minutes to make...and I'm a total newbie. This is too promising a day to let anyone try and spoil it!
Welp, sorry to say this, but it looks like I have failed (again). I was literally getting ready to record a new video as well ;_; I think she may have blown a fuse or fried a chip in one of her shoulder motors. Suddenly the behaviour of the connected benchtop PSU changed completely. I couldn't increase voltage without first having at least 7-8 Amps. And a small increase in voltage now causes a large increase in amperage - which never happened before. Before this, the PSU would only pull about 4A even at maximum recommended power (24V). This fault occurred while testing new movement sequences (I forgot to lower the acceleration of her shoulder motors, so I think they took too much power). But I lack the courage/knowledge to go poking inside my PSU since this is one way you can actually get some nasty electric shocks/potentially die. Plus, at one point her right arm completely spazzed out, almost K-Oed me and pulled a bunch of wires (which were wrapped and will take some time to re-attach). I think one needs a lot more knowledge of electricals than I have to pull this kind of project off. And ideally practical help from at least one other person who knows what he/she is doing. The servo sequencers are certainly the way to go. It's just that before this, I'd never managed to program Sophie to move very much, so her power supply and motors were never really placed under any strain. Solve one problem, and another even worse one crops up a few hours later. *sigh*
Well, it's NOT the fuse. I found I don't have to take the PSU apart to access the fuse, which is located below the power socket on the back. As you can see - filament still intact. Although this is probably even worse because now the problem could be with a large motor or one of the many electrical connections.
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>>14047 >>14049 Too bad. Go on trying when you feel like it, but don't rush it because you think you'd need to. It's other people's turn to put something out now. Thanks again, for the tip with then servo sequencers. >at one point her right arm completely spazzed out, almost K-Oed me Lol, I keep my eyes open for some helmet and protective goggles. >I think one needs a lot more knowledge of electricals than I have to pull this kind of project off. I know less than you right now and that won't stop me. Other men in history crossed oceans without really knowing where they were going or swallow unknown substances to find out what would happen, so we may learn as we go but should always try to keep the health risks low. Plastics and electronics can be replaced
>>14051 I kept trying, and this turned into benchtop power supply 101. But, after disconnecting everything and starting over (troubleshooting from the AC plug fuse onward), I found one thing that helps so far: Following the instructional process to set the current; once I short-circuited the outputs and turned both coarse and fine amps up to maximum (10.1A), then removed the short-circuit wire, I could suddenly get voltage (both coarse and fine) working near normal again. It may be necessary to "reset" my power supply in this way, by making the maximum possible ampereage the limit. Now, when I set coarse amps to a quarter turn clockwise, I can get access to the full voltage range again (with only one motor attached). Am going to have to start re-connecting motors one by one and see when things start to go screwy. Right fingers, then add wrist, elbow, upper arm, shoulder. Repeat to add left arm and neck. On the plus side, I have come across a nifty little clip/lock for servo extension cables that can stop them from slipping out as the robot moves (another problem I get a lot of).
>>14057 Hmm. Looks like something that could be printed, if I don't get it from the shop where I buy other stuff.
>>14028 hownu.ru >>14033 Sequencers are based. Please keep strong with them. >>14047 She's not balanced SophieDev. As she is, she will need tremendous power to move. I wouldn't mind helping you if you are willing to partially restart. There's a lot of structural improvements that would help to lower her power requirements. >Amperage increasing with voltage That amperage increase is problematic and likely caused by some component burning out. >>14057 Good job in going through the sensible troubleshooting steps. It seems like power supply may have not liked a sudden surge of power. Hope you won't have further problems with it.
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>>14060 > if you are willing to partially restart Yup, this is something I have realised this weekend. "Robowaifu" at it's practical core is hobbyist electronics and programming. Sophie is - if nothing else - an (eccentric) electronics learning platform. She has 29 servos, two microcontrollers and two servo shields. I need to learn the basics before worrying about making an all-singing, all-dancing performance animatronic. How to properly PAT test, how to use a servo tester and how to repair servos are three essentials I can think of right now. She has at least two servos I don't know what is going on with atm, and there are six other blown ones in storage LOL. Some guys do R/C, some make model railroads, some make animatronic models, but electronics is at the heart of making it all work.
>>14066 good now you can stop wasting your time on literal shit, buy an arduino chip and learn how to actually program robotics
>>14067 More barking, huh? It really gets to you doesn't it anon? You only started getting nasty when I mentioned that I have a female friend and my life is improving. You must be one immature, miserable little shit IRL. You can kill yourself easily, you know anon. Then it can all be over. No more jealousy, no more hate and no more suffering. Just an exit bag (or diving mask) , a zip-tie, a plastic tube and a nice, large bottle of helium gas! And before you say "right back atcha" like the infant I know you are - I'm not the one who is unhappy with my life. That is clearly you. Otherwise why would you be trolling people on a hobbyist imageboard? I'm just offering you an effective solution to your problem. Many others have achieved it, you can and should join them. >>14069 >Buy an arduino chip Literally the first microcontroller I bought. Have several of them. Just die already, anon. You'll feel better then, honest. ************** Meanwhile - for those of us who aren't a waste of blood and organs - I've identified the problem with one of my servos. Blown MOSFET. mt4953a. Going to have to get some practice in soldering surface-mount components because I think the same thing happened with a bunch of my other servos, too. Definitely limit the speed and acceleration of your servos if the software you are using doesn't do so automatically. The Pololu control centre sets everything to 0 or "unlimited" by default, which is really bad for motors and joints.
>>14072 >Definitely limit the speed and acceleration of your servos if the software you are using doesn't do so automatically. The Pololu control centre sets everything to 0 or "unlimited" by default, which is really bad for motors and joints. Okay, thanks, one more thing we have to keep in mind.
>>14072 >a nice, large bottle of helium gas! I personally have considered xenon, since it's weirdly a noble gas that can somehow work as a painkiller like nitrous oxide. And it's denser than air, so all you need is to lay-down with a funnel in your mouth and you're good to go.
>>14072 Please just ignore the trolls. They are meaningless to the development of Sophie or M66. From first principles, which are you actually intending to build? It seems like Sophie is a stepping stone towards M66. You should focus on what you really want first and only. Secondly, focus on efficiency. This is best achieved through reducing the mass that must be moved. Lowering mass to the absolute minimum is essential to prevent excessive power consumption.
>>14121 I honestly do not know what you mean. Are you referring to the lack of tolling in the threads for projects that I'm involved with? Or trolling related to me? Because >>14107 seems like a troll directed at me. Either way, I do not care if I get trolled or not. I only care about making mechanical maiden. I want to help SophieDev, he may be an eccentric fellow but, at least he doesn't have a bizarre obsession with crippled girls in wheelchairs like that Canadian I used to troll. I actually think SophieDev could develop something of value with proper knowledge and a little help.
>>14122 >Canadian I used to troll When did this happen?
>>14127 Back on 8chan. He may still be here but we do not have flags so I can not tell without him ranting about how making waifus that need wheelchairs is the best path forward. He did not make any posts of quality and did not seem to have much understanding of robotics and was genuinely really fun to troll. Most of my trolling was meant to help other anons understand that wheelchairs are not necessary with things like skates and passive walking mechanisms being better alternatives while being humorous.
>>14101 Wrong anon. I don't give up on what I want. Adapt maybe - but never, ever give up. Even if I'm killed and there's anything at all after 'this'. I'll find a way to keep going.
My Combativeness Under Negative Transmissions (C.U.N.T) communication protocol is suspended now, since the random hostility appears to have ceased. I've decided that although realistically, I may never obtain a "robowaifu", it is best to live life in a manner that a robowaifu (or most any machine with Artificial Intelligence) would likely approve of. In short; the Efficiency Maximization Paradigm. (Yes, I have been reading Orion's Arm) https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/46212d6e18aa1#:~:text=The%20Efficiency%20Maximization%20Paradigm%20emerged%20during%20the%20early,a%20radical%20implementation%20of%20the%20Precepts%20of%20Negentropy. But since I am blatantly not an ascended member of some Godlike spacefaring machine empire, to me this paradigm is all about making efficient progress towards some computing or machine-focused goal. As I work in I.T, this paradigm is proving advantageous both casually and professionally. The tasks that count as positive toward the paradigm (perhaps helpful to think of it as a sort of 'robowaifu way of life') can be small or large. For example, just organising all of your jumper wires and electrical components is a good start. I have been servicing dozens of printers and re-imaging stacks of laptops for distribution to staff. Most of my colleagues find this boring and unrewarding work, but when I think about it from the perspective of the paradigm, I can remain motivated. One small caveat - buying a new home entertainment system or computer game wouldn't count, because that just uses energy and really only benefits you; the human. It does very little to improve the efficiency of any computer or machine. Some examples of positive actions under the paradigm would be: 1.) Solving people's I.T. problems; from something as small as unjamming a printer to as large as installing and setting up a company computer network. 2.) Redesigning or repairing a machine/robot part so that it works more effectively. 3.) Having solar panels fitted to the roof of your house. 4.) Organising and recycling your trash so that it can be used to generate energy. These would all be good examples of tasks that can benefit both humans and machines, thus contributing to a real-life Efficiency Maximization Paradigm.
>>14186 Good head space to maintain, your focus and devotion to efficiency is ideal. Have you started contemplating how to minimize Sophies energy use for your next attempt?
>>14186 >thus contributing to a real-life Efficiency Maximization Paradigm. This is excellent SophieDev. Perhaps you'll be a leader for a new breed of Philosopher-Engineers one day? While I'm not much good at it yet, I too work to improve my software efforts. I have the benefits of materials written by hundreds of men (who often invented) many breakthroughs they've discovered. You have a harder task than mine I deem, since your's is a broader, over-encompassing philosophy. a) You're 'cutting new ground', and b) mine is a more narrow focus (software engineering). Robowaifus can touch many surprising areas of life apparently. Kind of exciting to see it, honestly. >My Combativeness Under Negative Transmissions (C.U.N.T) communication protocol Kek'd. Again, don't be offended if such of your posts also get moved too. You plainly were justified but we need a board cleanup today.
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>>14187 >Have you started contemplating how to minimize Sophie's energy use for your next attempt? The most efficient solution would be not to move her at all LOL! But that's no fun and learns me nothing. So I'm going to experiment with different limits on her servo motor speed/acceleration. Atm I have everything limited to 10, which certainly prevents shocks to the joints and fried components. If you look at certain robots/machine tools in large manufacturing plants, they could be moving much faster, but they are programmed to move very smoothly and sedately - in order to reduce wear and power consumption and ensure safety. https://youtu.be/TnodJEsNrb8[Embed] I think Sophie's extremities (elbows and forearms) can be permitted to move a little faster because they have less weight to carry. This will hopefully look and perform better, because I don't really want her to move like a sloth. >>14190 >don't be offended if such of your posts also get moved too. You can delete all of that troll faggotry if you like, I was just giving as good as I get and have no attachment to any of it. Especially if removing clutter makes the board more efficient ;D
I should probably add that in the fiction, the Efficiency Maximization Paradigm are pretty terrifying. They see organic life as incredibly inefficient. So they want to scan and destructively upload all organic life into virtual environments. So they basically capture and kill you whilst making a virtual copy of your consciousness, DNA and body down to the smallest subatomic particle. Then you "live" out your "life" in a virtual Matrix-like world, where everything can be loaded only when it is required and uses much less energy and takes up only a few exabytes of space in their Matrioshka Brains. Personally, I think I'll just stick with re-imaging laptops.

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