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I built a WaifuEngine would people want support me via Patreon? Em Elle E 05/11/2021 (Tue) 09:04:56 No.10361
Hey guys, I have been working on this project for a while now, beta supposedly in August. but basically it's a Waifu Engine, I have seen that a lot of the hardware projects have not gone very far and there are some software projects going on here, that lack the Waifu Aesthetic. So I thought I would build a system to solve that issue. I have gotten offline speech synthesis (voice cloning) to work as well as created my own offline bot framework. I am building this project to 1. to eventually raise funds for my wife who has Retinitis Pigmentosa, she will eventually go blind ... sadly, and its for gene therapy that could help who knows!. 2. To leave my job at a place where I am wasting my talent away, doing boring M.L Engineering work for a FANG company. 3. To build an interact-able companion for everyone, for these rough covid times. This is more of a survey, I just wanted to gauge the interest. So would you support me via Patreon? what would it take for that support? Patreon Link https://bit.ly/3u2T5Id I guess here is my discord server, https:// discord.gg/nfxu3S2h if you guys want to sleuth around until a beta comes out. More about me... I work as a M.L Engineer at a FANG company, won't name which one but its one of those. I have studied AI extensively and also have a strong software engineering / Product background along side a Game development background. I speak the language of delivery. As for my moniker... Em => M => Machine Elle => L => Learning E = > E => Engineer Sounds like Emily, Get it ? Anyways, heres Taiga, I voice cloned Cassandra Lee Morris, the english VA for the character. >=== -disable direct doxxcord link -add patreon link
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>>10361 >FANG Well, as you might imagine if you've lurked for ~5mins, then you'll know that the Globohomo Big Tech/Gov are pretty reviled on IBs in general, and /robowaifu/ in particular. So, you leaving their employ would be good for your soul, whether or not you begin your own robowaifu company. We here are all about licensing our designs and source as permissive BSD3/MIT licensing, so you can feel free to use any of our stuff here as you'd like. It goes without saying we here would enjoy you doing the same. Doxxcord isn't a particularly welcome platform again, on IBs in general, and /robowaifu/ in particular. Perhaps you can 'sleuth' for us by simply making your announcements here in your thread. BTW, we're a SFW board, focused primarily on design & engineering. If you have any other questions feel free to fire away.
>>10361 >Anyways, heres Taiga, I voice cloned Cassandra Lee Morris, the english VA for the character. Is there a ink or file missing OP? Or am I missing something altogether?
>>10362 I see .... yeah I did lurk for 5 minutes unfortunately it would be closed source. I'll make the announcements as they come and betas are released with your blessing board owner sir. I know nothing about the culture of IB thank you for the insight. I had thought that the IB would close the thread down over time I guess not. I will make the announcements here.
>>10364 > I know nothing about the culture of IB thank you for the insight. If you have JS enabled, you can find a pulsing, glowing link up in the headerbar of this page entitled The Webring. Click that and you can look around on IBs that have gathered together to form a small community. >Be aware: You may find links prefixed with '8chan' via other site's similar the webring link. This is a suspected fed honeypot. And whether it is or not, at least two of the administration there are also reviled in general if not quite as bad as the globohomo menace, for very devious and corrupt behavior. I'd suggest our board, anon.cafe boards, and kind.moe as good places that are relatively safe for a newcomer to get their feet wet with IB culture in general. Once you feel comfortable finding your way around with this subset, then you can branch out on the webring from there. >I had thought that the IB would close the thread down over time I guess not. As long as no abuse goes on here as a direct result of your actions ITT, then I don't intend to remove it, no. Here on /robowaifu/ (btw we're somewhat unique in a few ways, this is one), we keep a fairly tight-reign on thread creation and as you'll see if you look around our catalog page, we have a fairly wide array of topics covered already. We like to keep posts on-topic as practical b/c it's easier to find design, engineering, and other information later. On that topic, we have a CLI tool created here for this board called 'Waifusearch'. It's a primitive search tool that can do phrase lookups, and provides convenient hyperlinks to thread posts. The links for building & using this tool can be found in the OP of the Library Index thread. >with your blessing board owner sir. <sir Kek, my name is 'Anon' here, same as everyone else. :^) Note: so-called 'name-fagging' is welcome here on /robowaifu/, unlike most IBs. Feel free to go by Em Elle E as you care to, Anon. >I will make the announcements here. Glad to hear it. I'd suggest you use our catalog page to re-locate it again in the future. Welcome OP.
>>10366 Thanks it sounds nice Anon.
>>10370 I was looking around arn't you training a gpt waifu ?
>>10371 This isn't my work Anon, so don't quote me. I believe at least one Anon is (possibly others by now) working with a heavily-modded GPT-2 model (>>9124, >>9121, >>9437). We have at least two other (not counting yourself) researchers with AI here.
>>10372 I get it all anons are called robot waifu technicians
>>10366 You might look into this novel voice converter, Anon (>>10159). >>10373 >I get it all anons are called robot waifu technicians Heh, you found us out. I think you'll find several IBs during your explorations that have different 'default names'. A former BO introduced ours, and it just stuck ever since.
>>10374 I will I wonder if there is a way to collab with waifuSynth dev is there a way to contact him/her?
>>10375 Yes, he's right here from /robowaifu/ so I'd imagine so. Just make a post explaining your desire to one of his posts, and put a so-called 'crosslink' back here to your thread, Anon. (>>10361)
So reading what I wrote and receiving feedback from people who joined my discord, it wasn't immediately clear what I was working on. So in an easy to explain snippet. I am working on a platform to plugin automatic speech recognition, speech synthesis, vision, chatbot AI and 3D rendering of your waifu in one place. It's a piece of practical engineering that will get people excited about where AI is going. The app will be a desktop wallpaper or widget that you can chat to. Eventually, with the AI Platform off the ground, we can move this into AR or VR. As the renderer will be loosely coupled. I am targeting Desktop first because it's easier to get to MVP. I only have 2 and a half months left before I have to back to the slave position at FANG. This is where I was about 6 months ago. https://www.dropbox.com/s/xeyk4z1d1di03er/Prototype2.MOV?dl=0 I am looking for collaborators, who are ML Engineers in the field or can write python code. This project is too big to handle for one person. Unfortunately the Core AI platform, and the Renderer will be closed source. Any collaborators are allowed to license their work as they will, as they will be plugin in components.
>>10377 I see, thanks for the explanation Anon. That clarifies a number of things for me. While we strongly encourage everyone to open up their work (to help rapidly spread robowaifus everywhere), we also have a number of Anons who intend to start businesses. And that's fine with me too, so I would be fine with helping you out personally. However, I have little experience with AI so I'm not likely to be of much help in that area. I know C++ & CUDA & OpenCV (which is C) programming. I can dabble in Python, but I seem to have a basic aversion to it for various reasons. All my passion is about high-performance, systems-type programming. Only you can answer whether that's useful to you. OTOH, I have managed to devise a pretty easily-extensible (though quite simple) OpenGL rendering system that regularly hits 60fps on my old toaster notebook w/ no dedicated GPU (>>1814). So, I think your target-hardware decision of the desktop is a good one, and offers several advantages as the initial platform.
>>10376 >explaining your desire, replying to one of his posts*
>>10378 Hey good work anon it reminds me of the days when I used to play with OpenGL, the nostalgia factor is there!
>>10382 Thanks! I know it sounds immodest, and that's not intentional, but that bit of work is literally the simplest OpenGL-specific C++ code I've ever seen, that goes all the way down to the shader programming and asset import/mesh construction level. I worked hard to simplify things within it, simply b/c that's literally the single best way to deal with complexity (>>9641). The very fact it's so simple is exactly why it runs so fast on such potato-tier hardware.
>>10385 It makes sense your approach, if it works on hardware that is not the greatest then it will be able to be used everywhere, and yeah I have seen complexity be pretty bad before, where do you plan to take your work ? what are the next steps?
>>10388 >where do you plan to take your work ? what are the next steps? Well, I'm the OP of that thread and outlined a couple of ideas. I was chugging along with laying the groundwork of high-performance rendering and environmentals, got asset import working, but wanted to have our own, independynt skeleton system for our system (remember the goal for it is to be an actual simulator, not just an animation system. think 'physics-linked-to-AI-training system') and that led me down the bunny trail of having to learn linear algebra basics sufficient to devise my own FK/IK skeletal system. After a month or two, I picked up enough to probably go on with. But as there were other things calling for my time I shelved it with the intention of picking it back up when the time seemed right.
>>10389 reminds me of openAI gym anyways good work anon pretty interesting stuff!
>>10407 Thanks. My guess is OpenAI Gym won't run at all on a toaster. I mean for mine to be able to do so well in fact.
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>Support via Patreon I don't have any money.
>>10411 I think he's looking for help in other ways Anon. Maybe you can do something else to help instead?
>>10377 Welcome Em Elle E! Sounds like you have exactly the kind of skills that /robowaifu/ needs and are focused on solving a major problem of ours (combining all the different functions you mentioned into a single software package). I'm shit at programming mainly because I went into the healthcare profession (a.k.a hell-on-earth), but I've always admired people who can, so it's interesting to hear from someone who actually works for a big-tech company. I'm mainly a hobbyist/model maker guy occupied with hardware - designing parts, 3D printing then building, wiring and programming in movements. Relatively simple stuff but I have enjoyed making my slightly mad robowaifu who I call Sophie. She would really benefit from upgraded software. I'm kinda at the stage where I've constructed her upper body but there's not much going on inside her head (she and I are similar in that respect ;D).
>>10411 Hi, I am a team member working on the project mentioned in the OP. Just as an FYI, most of the product that we are creating will be free for all to download and use, and we are not putting that behind a paywall, so you will still be able to use it without having to spend any money. However, a few cosmetic items, that not related to the actual core functionality of the application, will be monetized or available as exclusive rewards to patrons as a way to show our gratitude for their support. Supporting us financially is entirely of your own volition, since right now at this point, it's more of a means to help us obtain the resources to continue development on this project and make it better, rather than anything else. People can however still support us in other ways if they want, such as spreading the word about this or lending their skills to help with the development process itself (only if they want though).
>>10416 >However, a few cosmetic items, that not related to the actual core functionality of the application, will be monetized or available as exclusive rewards to patrons as a way to show our gratitude for their support. Not him, I consider that a pretty smart business model.
>>10414 >Relatively simple stuff Don't sell yourself short Anon. We're all part of a team here on /robowaifu/ and I dare say the Mechanical Engineering you are teaching yourself to master in the trenches will prove rather difficult for the mathematicians/AI anons to master. We all have our parts to play here. As you mentioned >combining all the different functions you mentioned into a single [] package is in fact exactly what the discipline of Systems Engineering is all about (>>9398). For us, our 'single package' is something that actually encompasses both hardware & software. Without hardware, the software will never be part of something real. Without software, the hardware is simply an interesting doorstop. I'm sure you're becoming well acquainted with this duality in your current journey with Elfdroid Sophie.
>>10416 Can confirm this is true!, and thank you for chiming in =)
>>10414 >Relatively simple stuff but I have enjoyed making my slightly mad robowaifu who I call Sophie. Whoa! I saw your work its amazing!! >Relatively simple stuff but I have enjoyed making my slightly mad robowaifu who I call Sophie. I too would not downplay what you have done. =)
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>>10424 Thank you Em Elle E. I'm by no means the only guy to be building a physical robowaifu. The demand for synthetic companionship is high (it's just that many people are afraid to publicly admit it because of others being judgemental/shaming). But as soon as a fun robowaifu is released onto the market, then she herself can tell those mean-spirited meatbags to suck her live wires! For sure there is a major financial opportunity for the first group of engineers who manage to code even a somewhat decent interaction platform for D.I.Y robots (not necessarily just robowaifus). I honestly don't know why Google, Apple and Amazon haven't caught onto this with their A.I. assistants? I mean, they've already done a lot of the hard work programming their A.I., synthetic voices and speech recognition - all they'd need is a wider variety of voices and some cute animated characters...or better yet software that lets you design your own. Regardless, whoever manages it will become rich with a capital R!
>>10430 So alot of the fang companies have high observability to capture alpha, (revenue) so what they do is run A B experiments to see if a feature is warranted or not, using this math they are making guarentees about the work they do and whether it is worth it. If they were to change one small thing and see that the revenue increased while the engineering cost was lowered they would make that move, however if the opposite was true they would can the project and reallocate engineers to do something else. An interesting story I have is one time, we added an animation to a screen (iOS app), and did A B testing, because the animation was too slow, people immediately would leave the app, costing us millions at scale, when we removed it things went back to normal, this was after a staged rollout. I don't think the alpha is high for this type of thing, that is pretty niche. I think it would be enough for me to quit my job and work on it. I am just trying to dial back my expectations =) so I am not disappointed,
>>10432 Fascinating! How a system can be so singularly focused upon efficiency and profit but nevertheless still be profoundly short-sighted and broken :D But I digress. Hopefully you can make a robowaifu A.I. who makes both you and others happy, Em Elle E. I probably wouldn't quit your job over it though. Just because all the signs and symptoms are pointing towards a major collapse and restructuring/assimilation of Western civ in the near-future, so it's best to have plenty of emergency funds to fall back on. Robots and A.I. can make ideal companions during societal upheaval though - when you can't trust anyone else. So long as they're not too high-maintenance and power-hungry!
>>10437 >Fascinating! How a system can be so singularly >focused upon efficiency and profit but >nevertheless still be profoundly short-sighted and broken :D Its a mathematical optimization function where like in machine learning you are trying to find a low valley in an infinite valley of peaks and troughs, there is "no right answer" because the valley is infinite. Imagine then the people walk that valley if they can as a team or as an org, pulling each other around. The lower they go the more closer they are getting to the objective, if they can all agree. That explains why it's short sighted. > Just because all the signs and symptoms are >pointing towards a major collapse and >restructuring/assimilation of Western civ in the >near-future, so it's best to have plenty of >emergency funds to fall back on. I agree with you on this one, I certainly see hyper inflation making it's way into the USA >Robots and A.I. can make ideal companions >during societal upheaval though - when you >can't trust anyone else. So long as they're not >too high-maintenance and power-hungry! Mine might be XD haha
If you want to know where I get a lot of my criticism for modern corporate capitalism, then this channel by 'EcoGecko' on YouTube is the place to visit. He has very well researched videos (showing all the white papers and quotes), and reveals then picks apart the errors in our current way of life, piece by piece. https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=eco+gecko Of course, traditional Communism was much worse (it relied wholly on people to work together and be honest, and we all know how that worked out time and again). >Begin rant about machine collectives. However, machine-based Communism (a machine collective) I think could actually work. Because machines CAN be relied upon to work together without trying to screw each other over, lie and murder. If there's a problem then it should be fairly easy to trace it to the one sure-fire weak-link in the system; the human (usually a programmer, or a technician like me making a mistake or not doing their job properly). Most problems in corporate capitalism arise from greed and selfishness - people wanting too much, too quickly and at the expense of others. Machine Communism eliminates this. In a machine Commune, as long as I work hard 6 days a week on both my job and advancing the machine collective (I see the two as connected and united), then I can make modest, steady progress (despite various setbacks). All the machines that I maintain remain functional (most of the time - sometimes have to get new parts), my robowaifu improves occasionally and I'm content. Can even save up enough money for one holiday a year. But crucially DEBT, conspicuous consumption and large amounts of waste are not permitted. Anything that plays too heavily into the hands of the greedy capitalist Corpos is to be avoided. Debt in particular must be cleared at the earliest opportunity. It enslaves you and compromises finances, reduces machine effectiveness (so "unhappy" robowaifus) and reduces human happiness. As well as leading to corporate enslavement, unnecessary consumption will likely damage the environment more. > End rant about machine collectives.
>>10439 Sorry if I hijacked your thread to talk about my chosen solution to the world's problems Em Elle E. But if you and your team do manage to eventually code a robowaifu development and interaction suite then I will certainly buy a copy and integrate it into my "machine collective". Also willing to support you on Patreon for sure. If your A.I needs a lot of power and compute, then it will just be up to me to work hard and save hard until I can afford the necessary upgraded hardware (then be patient and buy smart). Godspeed to you and your team!
This is really interesting development and I am keeping an eye on this. Sure, it's a guy working in BigTech, but a closet weeb who knows where the efforts should be going. Until you are literally cancelled, I suggest you keep that job in BigTech to sustain you until your projects are doing well in primetime. There's no harm in trying to get a few dollars here and there in your efforts as well -- Kibo-chan the moving doll 's maker (basically the cutest robot on JP Twitter) sells his STL files and has a Patreon as well. You might want to check him out to see realistic expectations for how much a waifu project would actually bring in -- and that's actually one of the most popular ones on the internet. Speaking of which, I noticed there are many software people now compared to a few years ago. This is great, this is where the applications for the waifus would advance. I'm a hardware person, though unfortunately I can't advance in my projects since I'm living with my mother again (senior citizens prohibited from venturing outside during pandemic and lockdowns are decided upon every two weeks depending on escalations). I'm working on robotic RC cars in the meantime to advance my hardware knowledge while consolidating notes on good mechanical practices for my long-term humanoid projects. Desktop apps are a good entry step. For example I like Mihoyo's N0va (Yoyo) Lumi she's very well rendered but she's too mired in chinese culture and I don't appreciate everything that's supposed to make her cute. To get maximum waifu effect, she can run on a big screen TV in portrait mode, the life-size appearance will enhance her presence. Alternately, you can make an Android app, then you can take your tablet and stick it into a DIY shoebox holographic projector. For a hardware perspective, this will also enable you to just stick a phone into a physical robot's head and only have to worry about the subsystems that will link to the motor controllers and sensors. Anyways, thanks for posting.
(Em Elle E's team member here again.) >>10445 >Alternately, you can make an Android app, then you can take your tablet and stick it into a DIY shoebox holographic projector. Yes, our team has plans to move this project to mobile devices, VR as well as AR when we end up getting enough funding to obtain resources for further development. It is definitely a thing that we have in mind. We, however, do not have members with enough skill in the hardware department, so as of now, we do not have plans for what-people-here-like-to-call a "real" robowaifu. It might be something possible in the future for us, but that will largely depend on the support that we get on this in the first place. ---- Anyways, it's unfair if we do not show something of what we have been working on *alongside* the AI and voice part. So here's a small video showing the character model we have doing a little dance (her appearance is fully customizable and we have a full framework for adding custom clothes and accessories, as well as animations. We are still working on the emotions and face expressions, so please ignore the blank look on her face for now.) [P.S. Didn't risk posting the bikini version since I read in this thread that this is a SFW board.]
Bit of an update, this week we got wallpaper mode more or less done, some minor bugs, we are working on AI Integration of Speech Synthesis, and emotions and more costumes next week. Heres a fun video:
>>10447 LOL she's looking good! Takes a whole heap of work to model, texture, rig and animate a 3D model like that. Awesome work! (Even more impressive that you guys are working on AI alongside this). BTW do you have a Patreon page setup or did I just miss the link somewhere?
>>10443 in a general sense, in my understanding of the world every system has some kind of flaw or incompleteness, that eventually causes an upheaval of society if not patched, its a simulation if you will that has to be run and has many second and third order effects we cannot predict. As Wolfram calls it, some of the outcomes are irreducable. An example of a second-order effect is, a social network and using that social network as a weapon to destablize a government I am not sure if many people could have predicted these campaigns.
>>10444 haha No worries always willing to hear and listen and learn from other people =)
>>10445 Oh facinating I will definately check them out and see what they are up to. Yeah it is likely you will be able to attach a webcam to your tv monitor and display this vertically for now. One of the pivots I have if this fails is to try a b2b venture with digital assistants to help people in places just an idea like mall Kiosks. This idea was inspired by Nova Lumi, an essentially is the same concept, except with current SOTA AI and Advanced Software Engineering Techniques, glad someone has seen the influence!
Thanks! I have to really thank the other team member(whos posting) and the animator/modeller we recruited for this work, this was definitely a cross disciplinary effort as all new things are these days =). As for the link for Patreon we will update this page in a couple of days. We didn't feel it was right to post it until we had more proof of our ability to deliver. I don't want to end up like a Yandere Dev.
>>10453 > digital assistant kiosk Like Gatebox Grande? You can take it a step further and make like Joi in Bladerunner with her ability to leap from one TV screen to another.
>>10455 >w yep! is also inspired to be a cheaper version of Gatebox as well that really, we wanted a very low cost version that only required a TV, and thats a good idea will mark it down!
>>10453 >you will be able to attach a webcam to your tv monitor and display this vertically for now. No offense, but I would definitely prefer not to use a webcam to non-opensource, persistent, software. After all the usage scenario isn't like Zoom or something (on, then right back off). Will your system run without a camera/mic Anon?
(Em Elle E's team member here, I think I will now go here by my usual moniker, "Imouto".) >>10462 >Will your system run without a camera/mic Anon? Yes definitely, our plan is to make the system as modular as possible so you can run it without camera/mic as well, although it will limit some functionalities. Let me explain this a bit. We are using mic input for voice chat and commands with the waifu, so you can speak with her AI like a real person and get an immersive experience. We will however also have the option to let you just type in your messages to her and she will respond with her voice as usual. Webcam is to let her "see" you. Face recognition will let her greet you whenever she sees you entering the room. Also it will let us track emotions of the user, so say you are looking sad, she will say something to cheer you up. We will also have eye tracking for other stuff too (cough cough). However all these are not "core" functionalities of the app per se, so you can simply turn off webcam permissions for the app, and still use it normally. It's just that these functions will be missing in that case since they are dependent on the camera to function. We value user privacy very highly, and thus just so people know, the entire core system will be fully functional offline, including the AI and speech recognition and voice synthesis. We will not be collecting any of your usage data unless you [i]manually[/i] turn on chat logging and [i]manually[/i] send those log files to us (so we can improve the AI). And it goes without saying that some functions such as google search from voice commands given to the waifu AI or integrating the waifu to control your Spotify playback, will require you to be online, similar to Cortana's assistant functions. But yeah, the core framework will be fully offline as already explained. Hope that clears things up. :)
>>10468 >and thus just so people know, the entire core system will be fully functional offline, including the AI and speech recognition and voice synthesis. That is well. IMO that opens up a much broader range of usage scenarios if it proves to be the actual case Anon. If you can manage to make time to 'roam the halls' of /robowaifu/ for a few days, you can see that the significant majority are very highly concerned about the surveillance state embedding itself into our waifus. It goes without saying, but NO THANKS. :^) >Imouto Good idea I think. We had a general discussion on so-called namefagging on /robowaifu/ (generally quite unwelcome on most anonymous imageboards), and it was basically agreed that the benefits significantly outweighed the downsides in our specific case as a design and engineering board. Imagine working at a big company where every single day was basically like the scenario for the girl in 50 first dates. >posting tags Click the little '? Help' link in the page's header bar and you'll be given the proper tag codes for Lynxchan boards. >Hope that clears things up. :) It does, and thanks again for taking the time to do so Anon. I wish you Godspeed in your project work. BTW, do you have a name decided on yet, Imouto?
>>10469 >you can see that the significant majority are very highly concerned about the surveillance state embedding itself into our waifus We share your concerns and feel exactly the same way. In my opinion, it's immoral and unethical, and it's basically like someone spying into your bedroom while you are enjoying your private time, and that is truly obnoxious. Hence our decision to create a fully offline AI and bot framework. >if it proves to be the actual case Anon. Of course, we do not wish that you believe us based on mere words and promises. We will prove ourselves when we deliver the product. :) >Click the little '? Help' link in the page's header bar and you'll be given the proper tag codes for Lynxchan boards. Thanks. :) I was new here so I had no idea how formatting worked here. >BTW, do you have a name decided on yet, Imouto? The project itself is called "Waifu Engine". I think Em Elle E probably got the name inspiration from Wallpaper Engine.
>>10471 > it's immoral and unethical, Both quite true. However, it's going to be actually dangerous for any man who is a waifuist in the future. The Globohomo Big Tech/Gov isn't going to take too kindly to any man who refuses to toe the party line, and dedicated most if not all of his resources to propping up useless (and downright demonic) slags. They will mean to put such men up against the wall at the earliest possible moment, I'm sure. However thankfully, God will laugh them all to derision in the end! :^) >Waifu Engine It sounds kind of like a framework and one with a big target painted on it's back (see above). I'd suggest you try adopting such an approach, and allow a community of open-source devs to develop around it. Various distillations and add-ons, etc. Kind of like the transformation the UE underwent.
>>10472 > It sounds kind of like a framework. I'd suggest you try adopting such an approach, and allow a community of open-source devs to develop around it. Various distillations and add-ons, etc. Kind of like the transformation the UE underwent. Yes, that is exactly the plan! We will make the platform as much mod-friendly as possible, so people can write their own plugins in python and other languages and create add-ons and stuff. And of course, they will have the full rights to what they create. I think extensive mod-ability is why games like Skyrim are still popular (honourable mention to Honey Select by Illusion as well), and we plan to do it the same way by giving a lot of customisation power to the community.
>>10472 >It sounds kind of like a framework and one with a >big target painted on it's back (see above) Maybe I am missing something, but why would you say this? is there something I don't understand?
>>10473 >and we plan to do it the same way by giving a lot of customisation power to the community. Outstanding. >>10474 >Maybe I am missing something, but why would you say this? is there something I don't understand? It's a painful, and long, drawn-out conversation. I'd suggest you look around on the board in general for the full discussions, but the tl;dr: >Angry feminists have the ear of lawmakers, and are already decrying anything that empowers men. >Sex-robots are high on the list of the many things they want outlawed immediately b/c misogynistic rape -- 'won't someone please just think of the children!'.' >Anything called Waifu Engine is immediately suspect in the minds of these deranged harpies. I hope that clears things up Anon. I'd suggest you invest in building Waifusearch and using it if you really want to dig around in these topics here.
>>10476 That clears up alot of things thank you
>>10468 >We are using mic input for voice chat and commands with the waifu, so you can speak with her AI like a real person and get an immersive experience. We will however also have the option to let you just type in your messages to her and she will respond with her voice as usual. This alone will be an epic challenge. I was mostly using AIML to program my Sophie chatbot, along with a Python text-to-speech module and a Cepstral voice for my bot and Google speech recognition. I got to about 6500 categories and some more content scripted in Python before I stopped and began building her body. Anything more than that is pretty mindblowing to me. I'm still amazed by the writing ability of GPT-3 (but disappointed it's so closed off and only available to those with a literal supercomputer). I wouldn't worry too much about trying to learn your A.I. terabytes of information, as long as users can program her to learn stuff. Then it's up to them what she knows and doesn't know.
>>10481 We have most of that stuff working offline just like our speech synthesis, its just slightly buggy because I am working on a more efficient and composable architecture. The general idea behind WaifuEngine is to provide a renderer and a composable plugin system, most of the hard work is done the harder work could be plugged in easily. The trickyness to building a Robowaifu is you have to keep up with AI or Hardware, demands from your audience, if you are to make this successful. If you want to modify those components for the waifu engine, you should just be able to change one block of code I expose to you, and not worry about the rest of the heavy lifting, this is why I see hardware being a huge challenge, there are not any engines or platforms that solve this type of problem so people keep reinventing the wheel and the wheel isn't flexible enough to be reused therefore the field is at a standstill, unless you are like EX robotics company funded by the Chinese government.
>>10496 These are good insights Anon. I'm a generalist and 'both sides of the house' so to speak (software & hardware) are of concern to me. Have any good ideas about how we might approach modularization of hardware components to help addresses the wheel-reinvention problem? As you suggest, being able to be quick on our feet rolling out new design implementations in the future will be good for literally everyone but the haters. > unless you are like EX robotics company funded by the Chinese government. < *applications to EX Robotics intensifies*
>>10503 wait for a robotics platform that soles all the hard problems or go and identify what the hard problems are and ask for feedback. To me Kibochan looks like it solved like the MVP problem now to expan the software capabilities of that and make it a plugin system to extend upon
>>10503 Interchanging harware is going to be difficult. Since some want to use motors, others combinations of actuators.
>>10448 https://bit.ly/3u2T5Id Patreon Link here Thanks for your support!
>>10514 Added Patreon link to your OP, OP.
>>10516 Thanks I appreciate it =)
>>10496 Very nice lip-sync there, Em Elle E! That's some really clever stuff. Also... Holy shit Chinese government funds robowaifus!?! I am...conflicted but hopeful. Obviously they will be full of the worst kind of big-brother surveillance tech...but so would Western robots (in fact any robowaifu commissioned by a Western/NATO country is just as likely to be a trap to help them identify and imprison dissidents). However, if ExRobotics robowaifus make it to mass market the potential is huge! Even if I have to dismantle most of the robot, desolder some chips, replace her existing drives and install completely new software. They could help us out a lot!
>>10519 Thanks anon, I am looking to eventually gain traction then move to VR and AR and expose this as a platform
>>10519 I don't think the Chinese gov does this with the aim of spying on people. They support technology, but also China and some other countries fear the male surplus they migth have (bc more abortions of female embryos). Robowaifus would prevent rebellions even without spying, by keeping men happy, which would otherwise be alone and angry.
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>>10522 I actually befriended a Communist Chinese guy who was at Uni here. The thing about missing women is very real. Low-tier guys like him typically compete with around 30 other men for a single woman there. Every one of them all call here little sister or young female cousin (almost none are blood-related). Disenfranchised young men there, with basically zero prospects of obtaining a wife, is a very real problem there (and much larger than in the West in this respect). We talked for hours about his situation there, and he opened up to me quite a bit about what they deal with there.
>>10523 There are criminal groups literally stealing young women from neighboring countries or buying them, then selling them to Chinese men or their families for marriage. Maybe feminists should sponsor our efforts here. :)
>>10524 Yep, bride kidnapping is a long and honored tradition around the world. And, as you suggest, since the CPP One Child law for native Han Chinese (but not for the Islamist ones, lol) has been a booming business. BTW, it's generally not quite so 'criminal' in many of the cases, with the females basically volunteering for the process, with hopes for a better life and some money in the process. It's corporate-controlled media that spins the entire thing as ebil Muhsoggyknees!!!111 Again, this has been going on for basically all human history, often quite ritualized in several cultures. But sadly, my friend was far too proud to consider marrying such a foreign woman of dubious quality. His chief goal when I knew him personally was to rise in the ranks of the CCP to some sort of mid-tier managerial post. Sad to my mind, but for him was a key to success.
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>>10524 >Maybe feminists should sponsor our efforts here. :) What we really need to do is get the Taiwanese Republic of China nerds on board with creating robowaifus with us. This would be the catalyst that would change everything.
>>10523 That's very interesting anon. I didn't know the situation in China was that bad! Suddenly it makes a lot more sense that they are investing in robotics (and also genetic engineering/cloning). I hope your Chinese friend eventually gets a robowaifu too.
>>10513 Been meaning to respond to this, in the software world, we would think of this as an implementation detail, at the end of the day we want movement, so lets say we sent the system "Blink" it should translate that over to the hardware system walk forward where the software would identify the motors dynamically then perform the special operation with them. This sorta in efficient but when abstracting there is that kind of trade off.
>>10529 I meant blink * not walk forward haha multitasking is bad for you anons haha I am not sure if this would work in robotics, ill have to ask other engineers about it maybe they can provide some guidance about a platform like design
>>10513 https://cyberbotics.com/ So chatted with a robotics engineer of mine, he said to do a project like this you want to use a simulator first build the software scaffolding "plugin if you will" then simulate how it behaves once you have that all in place you can then print the pieces and put it together. This would the best and efficient path forward.
>>10528 >I hope your Chinese friend eventually gets a robowaifu too. Me too, but it seems unlikely. He's a pretty conservative Communist. Even once we finally achieve the near-Utopic dream of companionship functionality, I think he would consider it some kind of betrayal or other. Plus, no artificial wombs ATM so there's that too.
>>10529 >>10530 >>10531 Thanks Em Elle E. > https://cyberbotics.com/ Looks quite mature, I'll plan to have a look into it. I was already exploring ODE currently b/c DrGuero's simulator (>>10343, ...)
>>10531 Thanks, I'll look into it at some point. My argument was meant on the topic of interchanging hardware parts, though. If one robot uses a combo of pneumatics and motors, the other only motors, it might be difficult, for example. No air tube, no pneumatics.
>>10538 possibly? I am not sure not a hardware person, I asked a hardware engineer he said, it would be possible. If you had the software abstraction over the hardware.I would imagine we want to figure out what components are attached to say, the blinking action, then pull the configurations and use those through a software interface. Obviously easier said than done =). He also mentioned a lot of the robotics issues you guys are having is due to economics and engineering, we have the tech to build humanoid robots at the Ex robotics level however no one with the engineering skill set wants to invest the time
>>10518 Sure nprb. Godspeed.
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What is the minimum hardware requirement for your program? I hope it doesn't require a super computer to run it.
>>10549 DirectX 11 supported card and maybe 16 gb of ram, I am thinking the app might take max 8 gb haven't looked at the specs yet tbh
>>10557 Out of curiosity, does DirectX 11 offer something that is not achievable with Vulkan/OpenGL? Or is it because the engine you are using works better under DirectX? Because DirectX is available only for Windows OS and I'm running GNU/Linux. Well at least there is a program that translates I think at least DirectX 10 calls to Vulkan calls so its not troublesome. >8-16GB RAM hmm it sounds a bit too much for a single program though I cannot tell what kind features you are going for that needs so much RAM.
>>10566 There are 2 models and a renderer that are run and loaded into ram. one model is about 5.3 GB its a gpt language model. The second is a speech synthesis model about 500 mb, AI is run locally, if it was not, you could get rid of most of the ram usage.
>>10569 I think it should be noted that interference might not need fast/expensive RAM and also not much computation per thread. That's why I want to build at least one Xeon based server, with one or two old CPUs and a chinesium board, as soon as a decided where to live for the next years. I think anyone here, being serious about having some remotely human-like AI at home, will have to do that.
>>10569 scratch that Imouto will probably give you a better idea,
>>10566 >8-16GB RAM >hmm it sounds a bit too much for a single program though I cannot tell what kind features you are going for that needs so much RAM. Well, the renderer itself takes about 500 MB RAM and like Em Elle said, the speech synthesis module takes about another 500 MB RAM, and then you have the AI model that takes about 5-6 GB of RAM. Now since this is a fully offline architecture, everything is run locally on your system directly. We are not using any online based server to process all the AI stuff (very much unlike how other assistants like Siri, Cortana or Google Assistant), since we value your privacy first and foremost. Now, it's also possible to run an AI without loading the model to the RAM, but then you would have to wait about 20 s for each response. In order to make it run fast and respond to you in real time, we require to keep it loaded in the memory, so that you get an immersive experience just like talking to a real person. So the app itself would take at most about 8 GB RAM to operate (or maybe slightly less than that) and that is the minimum requirement. 16 GB of RAM is what we recommend though, since you will want to keep her on your desktop wallpaper, and you would want to keep doing other regular stuff at the same time, which is why the extra RAM. Hope that makes sense. :) We however plan to make the AI models smaller and more compact (so that they take less RAM) by distilling and retraining them once we have more resources to do so, cause at present we have been working on this with a zero budget and a very small team of volunteers only. >Because DirectX is available only for Windows OS and I'm running GNU/Linux. We plan to support Linux in the future, but it will not be able to have a wallpaper mode. Linux support is currently low priority in our development roadmap, due to far more people using Windows, which is why we want to focus on getting this up for Windows first, which I hope, is understandable. I hope that clarifies the doubts that were there. :)
>>10573 >"since we value your privacy first and foremost." While that's certainly a critically-important topic for every man desiring to own a waifu (whether he even realizes this or not), I'll offer you pointer for such a community as this one. >Protip: IB users are, and rightly so, quite skeptical (and even cynical at times). So, when we read such ad-copy here, we naturally respond with Pfft, sure. Where have we all heard that before? Normalfags, Normals, Normalcattle, Normalniggers, Normies. All these are derogatory terms we Anons use to refer to the normal populace that are in general easily swayed by hype and other media. I believe most of us here on /robowaifu/ would consider such claims as being directed at that population. Again, I'm not denigrating your stated position of protecting your users, of course not. But even Google is now attempting to brainwash people into believing that they are a privacy-oriented company. What could possibly go wrong? Even the glowniggers go to Jewgle for privacy-invasive data mining.
>>10580 So I would recommend using the windows 10 variant of little snitch to sus out any outgoing networking connections from the app or the 3 AI containers anything in this world requires some element of trust, if you live your whole life in distrust you will fail to live your best life. I would suspect the unity renderer would have some telemetry otherwise you shouldn't see anything from the 3 processes.
>>10581 Good advice, but thanks I prefer not to use NSA-OS 10 at all outside of a work environment Anon. I do use OpenSnitch, Wireshark, and a wide array of other networking tools on my own Linux/OpenBSD boxes. >f you live your whole life in distrust you will fail to live your best life. Kek, could be, could be. Thanks for the philosophical tidbit, but a healthy dose of skepticism has actually saved many a man's life. I realize that women and children aren't capable of doing this well in general (thus why they are clear targets of exploitation), but God actually intended for us to be protectors over them. 'Better safe than sorry' is an ancient, well-worn adage. And for good reasons.
>>10583 No worries anon, unfortunately we cannot design a catch all waifu solution, it would require infinite resources good luck on your robo waifu journey tho!
>>10584 You too. I hope you live up to your promises Anon, it will be a nice step forward for us here if you do.
>>10573 Ah okay thanks for the full explanation, I was kinda worried that you guys weren't bothering with performance that much. >We plan to support Linux in the future, but it will not be able to have a wallpaper mode. Linux support is currently low priority in our development roadmap, due to far more people using Windows, Linux is big enough that even Steam bothers contributing to this eco system, also Linux is the defacto standard in almost any server hosting. Also here is some pointers https://wiki.winehq.org/Developer_FAQ#Independent_Software_Vendor_Questions so adding support is in most cases good enough if native Linux support is too much for you.
>>10592 >...simply ship your Windows .exe along with an isolated copy of Wine. Interesting. Any idea how that works, Anon?
>>10595 I think it means first create a wineprefix then test out the first 2-3 Wine version to figure out which one works the best and when one just works out of a box then do whatever other changes is needed and release that as a "linux" version. Oh and if possible use POSIX calls instead of Windows calls, maybe those programs are suitable for this MinGW or Cygwin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX#POSIX_for_Microsoft_Windows To create a wineprefix: https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Wineprefixes so when you create a new wineprefix it contains well only the standard things so no extra libraries or anything of that sort.
>>10596 I see, I think I understand that. Personally, I generally just use MSYS2 whenever I want one ov my programs to work on Windows. Otherwise, I basically just use the Windows Virtualbox host to run a client OS. Thanks Anon.
>>10592 So I sent out a copy to a OG member of the doxxcord, that anon had a GTX 285 video card. Ran at 60fps and looks pretty good while running. So performance wise rendering seems good. Now just have to see if our AI services run well and low memory
>>10628 That sounds pretty encouraging so far. Thanks for the update Anon.
Is there any evidence of OP's waifu program other than the audio samples and videos that could have been thrown together pretty easily? What is there? A GPT model of which we don't have any concrete example, a speech synthesizer allegedly running realtime, and a barebones single model scene in the default unity skybox. All this from an alleged FAGMAN engineer working on it either between jobs or on sabbatical. Until someone posts a decent demonstration video I'm just going to assume this is someone fishing for patreon handouts on the hopes and dreams of naive anons. >>10573 >We plan to support Linux in the future, but it will not be able to have a wallpaper mode. Get some balls and just say you don't know anything about Linux and won't support it except as lazily as you can with your mediocre closed source unity animation player. It's trivial to draw to the root X window, and wayland probably has something similar.
>>10751 I'm willing to give them a chance. Nobody else seems to be doing what they are except for those Japanons at Gatebox, and I don't speak Japanese. To WA.I.fu or not to WA.I.fu?Only time will tell. If not, then all the more reason to build a physical robowaifu eh?
>>10754 To me it sounds possible. However, I would suggest to try searching for supporters elsewhere, bc we aren't that many people here, already doing stuff around that topic and quite some seem to be rather poor. There might be many others on imageboards and social media, e.g. around anime waifus. I like the animations btw, also the colors remind me a bit of Timkerbell, the fairy of porn (Peterson): https://youtu.be/ZjI7vqizTRc
PSA PLEASE READ: Anyone who comes to this board so it is very clear. >This is more of a survey, I just wanted to gauge the interest. So would you support me via Patreon? what would it take for that support? I guess people don't really read now a days... Someone had requested we put up a patreon link, so we did that. As for updates, we are not diligent in them here here because we are busy delivering and have to allocate our resources to a beta which if anyone has read inb4 August. Being a "FAG MAN" Engineer with a wife and kid...,I have to make hard decisions about what makes the most impact, and where, with metrics. That being said, to BE VERY CLEAR, DO NOT DONATE, unless you have spoken to me or believe in my team's capability, and want limited minted costumes for you waifu's that only Patreon Supporters will have. The donators of recent, have been messaged in our private channels. To be clear the donations are going to be used to generate more custom art assets. Also thank you to Sophie Dev for your continued support, it means a lot. We will not let you down. No suffering. No pain. All machine! >>10755 Anon, yes we have known that for a while, this was a test to just get marketing off the ground to gather some feedback and learn new things, to make new friends and plant a seed.We have learned no one here apparently uses CIA OS 10 64 bit Next item on the Agenda DONT DONATE FOR LINUX SUPPORT. I think there might be a someone in the thread that can also build a closed source mediore unity animation app that allegidlly has a real-time speech synthesizer and has balls bigger than ours, that can draw an X window or call a wayland API :wink: so engage with him about that. To clarify, we have limited resources (our time) and we are uncertain about linux it may never be in scope Thank you.
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>>Your efforts are appreciated Em Elle E. I hope that your robowaifu brings you and your team a fulfilling sense of purpose and happiness even while she is in development. >>10755 I'd like to program Sophie some more and maybe get her to start drumming up more support for the robowaifu cause, but when I get home from work I am usually knackered and have a headache, so not really in the mood to do much. She is just stuck in standby most of the time (I call it 'derp mode' because of how daft her face looks with her jaw hanging wide open). I mainly just work on her at weekends. On the up-side though, I've found Final Fantasy 14, which is now free-to-play up to level 60 and is chock-full of waifus. There are elves, cat-girls in maid costumes, bunny-girls, smol, horned-waifus and some kinda big orc-pirate waifus called 'Roegadyn'. Of course I had to go and play as an Elezen version of Sophie, so she is mostly dashing about Eorzea in the evenings. Importantly, I don't think a robowaifu should be made in a stressful environment. It is best for her to be a labour of love undertaken because you are genuinely interested in creating her. A robowaifu should make you feel good in some way, even if you are her dev. Otherwise the only goal is money. And there's plenty of other miserable jobs one can do to earn that. One last thing. Has anyone else seen 'Samantha Samsung'? She is a 'rejected version' of a 3D computer graphics avatar that was going to be used for Samsung's virtual assistant. I'm not a huge fan of the Disneyesque type face, but she just goes to show how many people all over the world are would really like a WA.I.fu!
>>10763 >Samantha Samsung yeah I saw this more recently, it looked pretty good. I mean bixby 2.0 apparently is a hot mess. I have heard that they may get rid of Bixby 2.0 to use google assistant because Google was going to pay them a lot of money for integration into Samsung Galaxy lineup. What was most interesting about the whole Samsung Bixby was acquition of Viv. Viv had built a platform that utilized, a really powerful algorithm called dynamic program generation. Which combined natural language processing with intent to create ontologies to understand your query then build a program on the fly. It sad how this technology may never see the light of day or be released into the wild. It was pretty much my plan to replicate that work with DL if WaifuEngine became successful
>>10764 All these programs that can generate further programs is on another level that I doubt I'll ever comprehend. If only I'd studied computer science with A.I. at uni instead of wasting my time in healthcare trying to cure people who will never get better and getting abused by angry/entitled patients and relatives. Oh well. Judging from the progress that's being made it looks like plenty of maths whiz-kids are into A.I. anyway!
>>10768 What you are doing is pretty noble, I wouldn't discount it. I know some people in my field who would rather be in the medical field haha, yeah at the end of the day what they write will likely be plugged into a product anyhow its really a matter of when.
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>>10763 >Samantha Samsung Yes, Alita Army found her and claimed she's Alita in disguise. >>10764 >Samsung Bixby was acquition of Viv >called dynamic program generation. Which combined natural language processing with intent to create ontologies to understand your query then build a program on the fly. >IIt sad how this technology may never see the light of day or be released Let's collect all they shared, so we can replicate it: >>10783
>>10366 >Cassandra Lee Morris Excellent choice my dude. I will integrate this into my Ritsu-bot when it's done.
>>10763 >One last thing. Has anyone else seen 'Samantha Samsung'? She is a 'rejected version' of a 3D computer graphics avatar that was going to be used for Samsung's virtual assistant. I'm not a huge fan of the Disneyesque type face, but she just goes to show how many people all over the world are would really like a WA.I.fu! I'm vaguely skeptical they ever will b/c Worst Korea (roughly speaking, the ground-zero of stronk, independynt feminism in Asia), but if Samsung actually goes all in on waifuism with Sam they will catapult to the top of the stack in the global phone market, no question. With the tiny peek at the character design, and metric shitton of fan art instantly appeared. As you suggest, that is a very clear indicator of popularity -- as any one under 30 already knows entirely instinctively.
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>>10897 LOL that is awesome progress on Em Elle E! Her voice is particularly impressive. I see you are having a similar issue to what I had with speech synthesis, where you have to break certain words down into syllables >synth the sis that are closer to how they sound but completely different to the way they are actually spelt. I can remember one Cepstral bot I had couldn't say the word "shoes", so it ended up being 'shooz'.
>>10897 Also, I get the feeling some folks are probably waiting for the first beta (alpha?) release before commiting to support the project on Patreon.
>>10898 Haha yeah I am gonna switch to using glow tts which uses phones to fix that issue, but will take two weeks to train. And on the second comment yeah I think that’s the case, I still find it strange though how some people can market something that doesn’t exist and under deliver and yet get funding. We should have a AI based chat in two weeks, then I’ll work on the speech to text which was partially in a fine state :)
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>>10897 Yeah, the voice is lovely. You might consider Indiegogo, which is more for investments or customers prepaying, while Patreon is for donations. Quite sure, the projects you're refering to, where getting their fundjng that way. Comicsgate, around Ethan van Sciver, is doing it that way. He talks in YouTube videos about his way to do business.
>>10897 Thanks for taking the time to visit us. And the same to you, best wishes.

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